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    Dr Tom Balchin

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    1. Btw, just a note about continuation of batons used at Coronations, King Charles III definitely did NOT cause to have made batons for his Coronation; very sadly. His Coronation was very different in terms of scale/expenditure eg, the great majority of the Peers were not invited (initially involvement of members of the House of Lords even required those few to leave their robes and coronets at home and wear suits instead). The batons like those shown here is known to be one re-used from the Coronation of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II. Our long-term family friend, current Clarenceux King of Arms, notes that it is thought thought that the Prince of Wales is unlikely to regenerate the practice. Btw Nightbreak, I've asked so many sources now, and conclusion is that there were no batons made for the 1969 Investiture. So again for a bit of fun, two pics of a long wand from St. Barts Hospital last year!
    2. Also, quite fun - these are non-Coronation batons from England and Scotland - and range from those carried in town/county processions, legal proceedings and those which are a literal extension of the law!
    3. Arm bands and view of the arms of terminal of the Queen Victoria's Baton, with motto as 'Salvation Under The Cross'.
    4. Hi all, Six more additions to report to the collection of The Right Hon, the Lord Lingfield's which he and I have put together over the years. First, I was pleased to secure an addition from Spinks of two batons carried by Lieutenant-Colonel Sir J. F. D. Johnston, G.C.V.O., M.C., Grenadier Guards and Comptroller of the Lord Chamberlain's Office. A 1977 Silver Jubilee baton with gilt E.II.R. cypher, painted in red and silver and a very rare beast from the State Funeral of Sir Winston Churchill; baton painted in dark green and gold. Both in very fine condition. Also added is a 1935 Silver Jubilee baton and an absolute treasure from Noonans Mayfair auction; a Gold Staff Officer’s baton from the Coronation of Queen Victoria: painted wood, emblazoned with the arms of the Duke of Norfolk within a garter, superimposed on crossed batons and beneath a ducal coronet, the finial bearing the royal arms, a crown and V R, the terminal with the arms of the office holder, length 61cm, together with a modern mahogany stand for vertical display. Borne by Thomas William Fletcher (1808 - 1893) in the capacity of Gold Staff Officer of the Earl Marshall the Duke of Norfolk, 28 June 1838. Condition Report Some minor rubbing to the painted surface, not affecting the armorials. Also, King George VI 1937 Gold Staff Officer's Coronation armband (very fine) and another armband (very fine) from the same Coronation.
    5. Wonderful Nightbreak! The William IV Aberdeen short staff is indeed a rare beast - and I particularly like the gold and black baton with the Duke of Norfolk's crest on - just superb!! I'll pop back into this website periodically to see what further goodies you manage to acquire - you must be on your way now to putting together one of the most complete private holdings of Batons!
    6. Hi Nightbreak, How are you, and other contributors to this particular topic (since 2014!) May I show here my father (Lord Lingfield)'s collection? I've bought various pieces over the years, on ebay and elsewhere, including the group of three shown at the start of the topic - so I hope you're now at last sure that these three batons, discussed and re-discussed a few times, have been saved in a suitable collection and are now back 'on show here'! As you or another member has pointed out, this is most probably the best source (visual, anyway?) for the topic on the web. And another pic..
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