redcross

wonderful catalog

amazing selection

many thanks

well, since this is an area I tend to watch very closely.

I know that I am reguarly biding against several collectors

who will pay anything to win if they decide they want it

most of them only bid snipe, and only in the last 10 minutes

I have watched what happens when 2 or more set

outrageous bids planning on winning - even common items

fortunately this type of collector tends to go away after a while

unfortunately someone usually comes to take their place

since you can't ID them

I'd still be glad to make them a home

mongrels thouh they be

might I add a Wurtemburg Olga order

Wurttemb...ga_O

nice topic

thanks

christerd

it is a prussian red cross 3rd class - 2nd class would have an enameled cross

saschaw

you post a wonderful example,

but it appears to be missing 2 medals - a prussian red cross

and whatever went with the blue ribbon

I would think it more likely to be this

very very common for ww1 era bavarian red cross

but then again it could be several others, among which

the previous or perhaps this one

wonderful news,

I look forward in hope

that it will have many interesting things

I've dreamed of flying to europe for auctions

but I'm afraid that will always be just a dream

so I'm thankful for the cyber commute

well, if you put in a request for a catalog

you'll be taken to a link where for 20 euro

you can buy one - I can not however

find any link for a pdf version of the catalog

they did send me a postcard for

the march auction

I do not know if this means a catalog

will eventually arrive

as nice as printed catalogs are

especially now that so many are in color

I'd rather not purchase them

there is only so much storage I have,

but storage for pdf's - that's different

please leave it alone,

first - it will destroy the value

second - it will destroy its history

why do you want to do it?

considerable poilishing will be necessary in any type of blung

hot bluing is more durable

it is not something to do yourself

not that you can't do it

but what is needed to do it right

is not something one does for a single blade

those who can do it, can vary the blue by which chemicals are in it

do it yourself blue, is almost always a cold blue

for it to work well, the metal must be VERY clean

there are tricks that can help to match, patch

a worn spot on a blued item and it can look good

but anyone who knows will be able to tell

it has been monkeyed with

Nimmergut's OEK is meant to be used with

his massive 4 volume work

and in vol 3 you will find black & white photos

of the medals in question

because the book is in print

I am reluctant to make or post scans of them

and for anyone who is interested in imperial german medals

it is a set of books very much worth having.

with regard to the second one

as far as nimmergut [4 vol not OEK]] goes

its not in there, so its not Mecklenberg

well, not official at least

and does have the look of fantasy

the first one,

all I can say is

I thought it was worth 3 euro

just as a puzzle of is it real

and if so what is it -

but since it went for 5

I didn't worry about it any more

but with postage costs rising

I'm not certain how often

I'll bid on such things

oh for the olden days when their were plenty

of medals in the market, and only a few were "bad"

I always like to see red cross,

would however advise

you have more missing than you imagine

I've seen 6 different corporate awards

and the gilt come in highlights only and all gilt

and I've seen them on regular, special, & life ribbons

and then there are all the things I have not yet seen

plenty of variations as well

one favorite is in the types of suspensions

plenty of collecting oppertunities await

perhaps you could clarify which medal you are asking about,

the first silver one,

or the second,

I've seen the first one before

it wasn't my area, but I am subject to temptation

I don't know what it was, didn't win it,

but I'm fairly certain it is not Mecklenberg

at least is it not in Nimmergut's big work vol 2

If I could second the idea of preservation

of historic photographs -

it is fine to save the images,

but it is worth saving historic paper

these are often lost

so few survive

I know there is a nice book covering Red Cross medals and badges,

text is Itallian, rummors of a revised english language eddition...

and would suspect there are other similar badge books

though I can't name them...

some of it may be covered in their journals

usually prices climb after a book has been released

and prices have been rising on Italian lines

yes there are similarities

to the red cross service medal

except -

the arc ribbon uses stripes

of equal width - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

are what I have seen

and the only device on the medal

may be a bar for overseas service

which is what it says

and -

while there are red cross ribbon bars

this is not a medal for which I have ever seen

or heard of a bar being used

my scanner is down so I can't scan a complete set,

sorry

-

yes stay away from pvc

what you want is mylar

which itself has a variey of names

all will also tell you they are archival

more to the point

it was possible to buy

ground dug bullets from the battlefield

all you had to do it match it to your gun

the collector went through several thousand

to find the match

I almost bought the henry myself

but the stock had been cut down

the gun was beat up

and brass tacks had been added

that was enough to know it was an indian owned gun

but not enough to tell me much more

your last one must be Red Cross

the design, in different colors

is also used by the Romanian Red Cross

also for public health of some sort

I've haddd the impression that

there were soviet approved designs

which are used in many of the satelites

its a good question

the answer is not found on OMSA website

so I posted the question in their forum

let see if someone knows

If I'm right, I knew this collector well,

he had been a bank president,

and he loved research,

he bought a henry rifle from a friend

did balstics test on it against

bullets found at the Custer battle site

and was able to place it there as an Indian weapon

do DDR Red Cross

table medals fit here

and if so, does

that also include

Meissen plaques??

OK

I'd never really looked before,

but here's what I've got

Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914, with ribbon, parade mount, unmarked

Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914, with ribbon, parade mount, maker marked ? 800 ? (silver content)

Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914, with ribbon, parade mount, maker marked ? A ?, Assmann

Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914, with ribbon, parade mount, maker marked ? G ?, Godet

Iron Cross, 2nd Class, 1914, with ribbon, parade mount, maker marked ? W ?, Wagner

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funny I don't have a bar with a noncombatant ribbon

I'm no expert

but why would the Hindenberg

preceed the Red Eagle -

that doesn't seem right...

you want a very good museum archivist

who specializes in paper

they can do incredible things,

a good museum can point you to one,

a good archivist will have credentials,

I would suggest you read a little on the

subject so you can ask proper questions,

there is good reading material online.