Claymore

Hi.... I'm looking for an opinion on this SA Braunschweig M1/63 tinnie....I've avoided buying one of these badges for almost a year due to my lack of knowledge and the high number of copies in the market.... ....I would appreciate any and all feedback.... Regards. .

...'ask and you shall receive!'....the lack of 'hakenkreuz' detail is not my idea...that's how it is displayed on the German web-site....(we all know how tough their laws are)... ...on the one hand (collectors view-point time), it's good to find pre-1933 tinnies which mention Adolf Hitler...I just wish they had used a better style of eagle at the top...instead of the faceless 'turkey' that adornes this badge... ...having said that, if it were SA then I would have snapped it up ages ago.... .

...seen an identical tinnie for sale elsewhere....but with what appears to be an original soldered stick-pin attachment... ...I agree with 'mametz' that the pin fitting on the tinnie posted here does look like the kind more commonly found on porcelain and 'Efoplast' types of tinnies....but that doesn't mean that this tinnie is 'wrong'.....it could well be a period repair......who knows for sure ???

...ehmmm.....you mean something like this ??? http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=21021 ...it starts with just one item......and then gets out of control !!! .

....been lucky enough to match up a SA tinnie with its 'event' postcard... "SA Chemnitz 1938" ...note that the postal 'cancel' features the same design as the tinnie... (...the photo is a tad 'out-of-focus', but you get the idea...) .

Hi KDVR.... ...I actually posted my Stuttgart tinnie earlier this evening in the SA tinnie section... Regards.

...and I believe these have been seen already...so another 'triple' set of SA tinnies... "Stuttgart 1.VII.34" "Gruppenwettk?mpfe SA Gruppe Hochland 1937" "Wehrwettk?mpfe 1939, SA Brigade 94 in Linz" .

...I have one exactly like it...and regard it as original, coming from a very reliable source....the fakes usually don't have such 'sharply' defined rear sides....the detail on the reverse of the originals is every bit as good as the front side... ...fakes tend to be more 'muddied'...with a lack of well defined detail... ...I would say this is a good original tinnie.... ...there is also a 'Stuttgart 1.VII.34' tinnie which is near identical... Regards.

Hi Pete..... ...a great looking SA tinnie....of course, it would be more 'at home' if it were next to MY tinnies.... ...a real nice find....

...oh no!.....another SA! "1. Wehrsportfest Der S.A. Standarte 15, 7.u.8 Oktober 1933, Minden i. W." (look at post #152, page 8....the design on both tinnies is very similar) .

....thanks Benten...glad you like it ! "Brigade-Aufmarsch Hann.Ost in Uelzen 8.10.33" (Brooks posted the 1934 'aufmarsch' a few posts back) .

...something special here....a SA tinnie bearing the image of Adolf Hitler no less! ...tinnie is approx 63mm in length... ...and could you get any more letters on a tinnie ??? "Adolf Hitler Kampfbahnweihe u.1.SA Sportfest Standarte 105 Sportv. Sturm Beierfeld 4.8.-11.8.1934" ...note the SA logo to the left of 'Adolf'.....and the Beierfeld coat-of-arms at the base of the tinnie... ...quite a 'stand-out' SA tinnie if I do say so myself .

...great looking plastic 'tinnie'... ...and I've no idea who Edgar Broughton and Roy Harper are.... ...must be before my time...

Hi Pete.... ...quite a few great looking tinnies across several databases....looks like you've been a busy man! Really like the 'Sonnenwende Hamburg' tinnie...crisp detail on plastic? ...I'm surprised you've got any room at home for any more tinnies.... ...I have a few of my 'favourites' on the way to me just now... ...but having a 'few' tinnies will never do..... ...it must be them ALL !

...just realised that I have a bit of a 'family' of SA Brigade 35 tinnies... ..Leipzig 1934, 1935, 1936... .

'3. Deutsche Gep?ckmarsch Meisterschaft 25.-26.4.36 SA-Brigade 35 Leipzig' .

...really like that NSKK / HJ Harz 1936 tinnie....very nice indeed...

Hi Brooks, What a great looking tinnie, 'Hamburg 1938'.....great detail....but I can't quite work out if it is tin or plastic...which is it ?

Hi Benten, I'm not much of a tinnie expert...not by a long shot....but the things I like to find out are, for instance, if the tinnie has a 'makers mark'....does that particular manufacturer still exist today?....and if so...what are they producing now... ...or if the tinnie features a particular landmark....is it still standing?...what is its importance?....was it a NS period monument or something older...etc, etc... ...all of which brings the tinnie to life....almost like a postcard in a way...a 'snap-shot' from history long gone...

...surely this can't be 'our' Robert....been MIA for some time now....was it winter hibernation ...good to see more new tinnies being posted....which is surely a positive way to thank Don for all his hard worked involved in setting up all the new databases...

...one story that was often repeated was about his time stationed on Iceland during WW2.... ...as a supply driver, he faced many rough going roads, none more so as found on Iceland......the Army worked hard to repair and improve many of the deep pot-holes in the roads....first filling up the deep holes with any old rubbish that could be used....which included a huge stock-pile of old unopened corn-beef tins....'Grandad' hated the stuff....and was quite glad to see the tins buried under tarmac... ...one day, a food parcel arrived from home (Scotland)...a rare thing indeed, due to the high number of shipping that was sunk, many parcels and letters never arrived at their destination.......in amongst the 'luxuries' was a tin of corn-beef.....disgusted with this apparent lack of understanding from his far-off family, he discarded the unopened tin into the first pot-hole he could find....which was duly covered over with tarmac... ...a week later a letter arrived from home....the letter had been sent out at the same time as the parcel but had became separated and gone to another Army base... ...the letter contained the usual comments and well-wishes from home....and also asked how 'Grandad' had enjoyed the small bottle of whiskey which had been secreted away within a tin of corn-beef..... ...needless to say, his request to dig up the tarmac was turned down by his superiors... ...and so instead, he spent many a day driving along the tarmaced road...weeping at the loss of the 'amber nectar' that lay so close, but so very difficult to get hold of.... ...there's probably a moral to the story, but I'm buggered if I know what it is ?!?

...thanks for the feedback gentlemen...very helpful... ...but here's another photo of the same man, probably taken earlier in his life....we know he joined up in WW1 at an early age...lying about his age to gain entry...as did many at that time... ...he was in a Scottish regiment...he was a local to Aberdeen / Aberdeenshire, which would normally mean he would be enlisted into the Gordon Highlanders (sadly, the regiment no longer exists...bloody army cut backs! )....but this badge doesn't look like the Gordons badge that I'm familiar with... ...this is an enlargement from a tiny photograph....and I guess the badge could be assumed to be one of several Scottish regimental badges... ...would anyone here like to hazzard a guess as to which one it could be ? .

...and nice tinnie from James... ...does the use of the 'Fasces' suggest a meeting of Italian and German workers ?

Hi Benten, Nice to see you here again....!

...thanks Brooks... ...I do like tinnies made of 'Nitroplast' & 'Efoplast'....the range of colours used helps to make them stand out against the standard tin variants... ...I guess from a preference point of view...I rate plastic, then Efo/Nitroplast tinnies, both over tin 'tinnies'.... ...note the image of the tower at the top left of the badge...that is the 'Old Waterworks', a prominent landmark within Bautzen....erected around 1558...