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    1. Turns out you could even argue the 20 year service mark isn't a requirement for this medal, they allude to in the covering letter for the Royal warrant that it will be 20yrs to match other services, but if it isn't written down in the RW, is very much open to interpretation. This is a very, very loose Royal Warrant. I know people in the prison service are trying to challenge this, I'd imagine the police wont be far behind given the BF, Police and Prison are very much bedfellows in this (i.e. use of powers, detention, use of force, serving legal documents etc.) Royal warrant for Border Force and Immigration Enforcement and National Crime Agency Long service and Good Conduct Medals - a Freedom of Information request to Home Office - WhatDoTheyKnow Further confirmation of aggregated service included below from another FOI. 67821 G Loughney Response.pdf (whatdotheyknow.com)
    2. I know, I had two years service at the time, so I didn't qualify. Even though I had six aggregate at the time. I had to wait until the prison service had fought it and it was retroactive for me and them. Its poor use of PS there rather than prison service that's caused the confusion. My initial post on this forum was in reference to someone who had contacted me about the new medal and its criteria.
    3. Can't disagree. The AF ability to transfer LSCG time, e.g. 10 years navy, 5 years army=15yr Army LSGC is another example. I think the BF and NCA will qualify for the next coronation medal. Also the PS didnt initally qualify for the golden jubilee, it was retroactive for them in 2005 because I didn't qualify in the police in 2002 until I found that out in 2005 and applied for it. TBF the PS(OD) LSGC is also open to interpretation and as we know nothing is black and white and everything is open to interpretation. If someone pushed for it, with the right knowledge they'd get it.
    4. Have to be honest and with no disrespect to anyone who’s qualified for this new medal, but it’s an absolute liberty to allow aggregate service from police, prison, Armed forces etc into this medal and not allow it for any of the other civilian LSGCs (less the National Crime Agency one which allows some aggregate service) Is it discrimination not to allow it in reference to other services? Is it a disparity? Where’s the parity of esteem? I can leave the Prison Service and join BF+IE and receive my LSGC within a year (or immediately if they take my prison service into consideration) as I have 16 years’ previous service with Police, 3 years with the Armed Forces and 1 year with the Prison Service or; • Leave the prison, join the NCA and receive a LSGC after 4 years’ service due to previous police service but; • If I remain with the Prison Service I must complete a further 19 years’ service to receive my LSGC as no service can be aggregated for the Prison Service (Operational duties) Long Service medal. Not a good, consistent nor fair situation IMHO.
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