mjfur

BTT. Anyone???

Well Mike,

You seem to get it all wrong

I am not saying short cables never exist, but only that they are (if attributed) not typical and not typical to fighter.

The fact is that in most actual collections/makets/shows they seems to be all over seaks for itself.

I am the first to recognize and to applaude everytime you find a pic (really) but 2 or 3 pics (in my eyes) will never make it "typcal item" and certainly not "typical fighter".

Showing the shoes would have shown flying boots or special mechanic boots or civilian shoes in case of an ingeneer or a test pilot.

Would it realy matter what type shoes? If he has on mechanics coveralls and flying boots what would that indicate about the flight helmet?

Every pic that I have posted that shows a short cord (Bf-109, Bf-110 and Ba 349) was a fighter type plane.

Yes I agree, very few pics, some not so clear, but this one is. Maybe not typical, but certainly not post war. Last time I checked these threads no one has ever posted any post war pic with a short cord in use.

But then again, I have it all wrong.

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Obviously no matter how many pictures I post in this thread or other threads some people won't change thier minds about short cords. Compare the hanger doors in the background.

Everything about the picture points to being wartime, LKp-N101, Schwimmveste & Bf-110. Who used Bf-110's post war? As far as I can tell it's "no one".

I believe Francois wanted to see his shoes.??????????????

Mechanic, janitor, pilot, secretary, does it really matter what they are. It still shows a short cord helmet. They apparently existed.

Regards,

Mike

Pic 2

Maybe this will end the dabate.

Regards,

Mike

I recently picked up a WWII Luftwaffe Officers visor cap id'ed to Karl Beilner.

In a quick search I found this,

Korpl Karl Beilner of Flik 35 received his Feldpilotenabzeichen on 5 May 1917.

There was a winner of the Austro-Hungarian Golden Bravery Medal Aviation-Services, Karl Beilner, Zugsfuhrer, FliK 35, 21^st Sept. 1918.

Is there any other info. availible? Did he serve in the WWII Luftwaffe after the Anschluss?

Regards,

Mike

Does anyone have any pics or information on the protective flight suits Me-163 pilots wore? There seem to be just 4 or 5 pics used in all the Luft. books. Has any of this special flight gear survived?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/clothing.htm

Regards,

Mike

I think both pairs are OK, I've seen this before,maybe something with the mold..?

Are they both same size ?

Yes,there are completely foldable N&G goggles,they're of the type with the 2 screws in the nose bridge ,I guess you might be right, 2 of these fit a container IMO.

I think changing of lenses from the clear pair to the dark pair was very difficult with the tiny screws etc..

I've some pics were we can see a pilot with clear type N&G and over that pair he wears a "tropical" pair of dustgoggles with dark lenses..

So,I think 2 pairs of N&G both with different lenses was a good solution.

Jos.

Both pair are original, I just posted the pic to show some of the other imperfections you may find in these goggles. Much like the un-even nose bridge.

Regards,

Mike

Here are two type 3 goggles, notice the difference in rear frame thickness (the raised part) between the upper & lower goggles. There is also a difference in thickness between the left and right side frames on the lower pair.

Isn't there also a version of the 3rd type that can be completely folded in half?

On another note, there are variations on the metal cans for the type 3 goggles. Some cans say "Splitterschutzbrille" and others say "Splitterschutzbrillen". I believe there may also be a difference in letter font/script between cans?

Is the word Splitterschutzbrillen plural and did these cans contain 2 pair of goggles? I ask this becuase many years ago I was offered a can with 2 pair of completely folded type 3 goggles that fit in 1 metal tin.

Regards,

Mike

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Here are some pics of very light colored typical summer weight jackets. If you compare the color tones of the caps, waistband & breast eagle the jacket is very light.

Regards,

Mike

Thick collar.

Here are some more with the fur/velvet collar.