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If the club ever has sold an original it must have been a mistake! All fakes! Keep distance and save your money!

Micha

He's back.....

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Micha

I did-everything perfect! Very fast delivery after payment,the Eks were good packed and everything was OK!

Micha

Well,I had a little money in my pockets for a situation like that :whistle: Normaly she hasn't got a problem with my collecting,only when it comes to the expensive EKs....like that! But this one is a little better than my old one and so I had to take it.Otherwise I couldn't find some sleep tonight always thinking about a possible mistake I made.....collecting Eks on a higher level is a disease!

Micha

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This one dropped in today-(sorry for the bad pics,but there's no daylight at the moment)The paint of the core is very good,so I'm satisfied with this little jewel!But I won't tell my wife how much it was

Mícha

Chris,

no-someone went higher.... But on the other hand mine is better and I've saved the pics on my hard drive. I'm still looking for a complete one....maybe some nice day...

Micha

This one was sold yesterday at Ebay..........just the 4th of this kind I've ever seen(but the best one is in my collection... )

Micha

I'm a link

Deumer Style

Micha

That reverse is screaming "K.M.S.T." Great piece!

Micha

The backing is a kind og green/grey...here togehther with a saxon board for the grey coat.

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Well,a nice pair of shoulderboards-unfortunately it was identified as a pair for the M15 Friedensuniform.Nothing for the "Bunter Rock"......

Micha

Well,I can't judge his shoulderboards....but some of the EKs he's offering would make me run away. Not the dealer with the best reputation!

Micha

Kris,

I have to apologize!Mea culpa! But sometimes I can't hold me back.....To find a start-I know the makers list at Tonys page,but doesn't matter what he has listed the maker "KO" is to the day unknown.

I know the majority of the imperial collectors name them "königliches Münzamt Berlin".But you must know that there are no dies or documents left over who could confirm the production of iron crosses there.When I got Mike(RAO) right the biggest part of the dies have survived the war and are in the museum there!No traces that the berliener Münze ever made EKs!So much about "KO".

"KMST"was misinterpreted for a long time as "Kriegsministerium Abteilung Standesamt"......Doesn't make really sense.Uwe Bretzendorfer (the most of you might know his shop)has done a research in the Stuttgart archives and came out with the information that a) "KMST" is definitely the "königliches Münzamt Stuttgart and b)that theyve produced something around 6000 1st classes(from my memory,he's written that in the SDA)

What will be next-We all remember the lucky find of a 2nd class "CD 800",wrapped in the original paper with the name of the company on it-----Carl Dillenius! Otherwise we wouldn't know who has made these wonderful EKs.

For me are nerly all makers pure speculation-"WS" for example-Sounds simple,must be Wagner&Sohn. But why had Wagner used a simple scratchmark at the REOs and other orders? Just a simple "W"? And why do we find the "WS" in two totally different variations(both,the marking and the hardware)? Why are the irom cosses with the name plate at the backside different again? Why are there a few more variations in the 2nd class? "S-W" is Sy & Wagner....I belive it,but I can't confirm it.The types would match..What about "Fr"? Friedländer has used "FR"...so simply a mistake or a 2nd stamping tool?

Ups...different cores and frames-and,what about the "Fr W"?Qestions,questions and more qestions......

Again an apologize to Kris-the User Papsak at that bogus forum named the "KO"= Königliches Münzamt, Abteilung Orden, Wien

The link...for all of you who can read german

http://www.militaria321.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=586

And a link where you can purchase the book(I would invest my money better in one or two crates of beer for my garden...)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Book:German-Medal-Makers-&-Marks-1813--1957-Iron-Cross_W0QQitemZ150370008108QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090902?IMSfp=TL090902153001r2535

Micha

Kris......."I'm no expert but they look good to me.

The "K" makers mark on the Iron Cross indicates - A. E. Kachert, Vienna." It makes my angry to read such a XXXXshit! That's a textbook "KO" Ek,stamped under the catch! Unidentified maker so far!

A.E.Kachert...Vienna.Well,I'm sure you can tell where you've got this name from...You are not the user "Papsack" from the Militaria321 forum? Who is providing a new book?

An equivalent overcoat example for each tunic?? So I need not only one example from every regiment...I also have to find these ones? Autsch......... :banger:

From Tonys page-I expected red boards with a yellow cypher? Or are the board for the coat different in the color? It looks like that I must have the big Knötel now....

Micha

The last pair...I've got no idea which regiment it could be!

Leibgrenadierregiment 8?

Garde Grenadierregiment 1?

Chip,

from Tonys page-I thought the Hannoversches Pionier-Batl. Nr.10 has also a cypher on the shoulderboard?

Micha

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