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Just to complete the reverse,here's the catch and the marking
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And the reverse
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OK,here we start with the twin brother of Bill's EK.If you look closely at the frame and the core you will see they match perfect!
Obverse
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OK-you all think it's a Grossmann-but why? Just because an identical EK with the magic"11" at the back? George,I know you are a "hardliner" in saying "Grossmann".
But please have a look at the frame and at the core....you see the tool markings at the inner,lower 9 o'clock corner? That is looking like two dots? Gentlemen,please have a look at your collections-especially for a "Deumer" core without a blob. You will find the same tool markings again. And of course the same core.....OK-Grossman could have used frames and cores from other producers.....sounds good? Not for me! "Grossmann had made 2nd class EKs-but the core is completely different.Well,let me resize a few pics....
Micha
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Hi@all,
I found this auction at Ebay...
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I thought Godet stamped JG&S? I've seen this stampings at 4th class REOs.So is this an unusual one? Or a fake? Sorry for this questions,but I didn't find anything in the web about it.
Regards
Micha
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Here's a 1914 Meybauer pinback-please have a look at the core......For my eyes they where made by the same tool! So if the guys at the german forum are right, a faker has to take an imperial Meybauer pinback,open the frame and has to put a new core in.Then he has to organize an early 1939 Meybauer with the typical Meybauer pin and hinge for the parts......To stay serious-we have a 1914 Meaybauer pinback frame together with the pin and the hinge of an early 1939 Meybauer ......later I will post some comparisons between the two frames.
Micha
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And the empty case....
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Inside....
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Here's another one you won't see any day-It's not in the same league as Biro's wonderful Godet,but I think it's worth to have a look on it...
Micha
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That's a real killer EK! And together with a very special KMST absolutely at the top of my "wanted"list. .......You are a lucky man.
Micha
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Thanx,Bill! I think that helps....
George,I think it's because nobody knowns this variation. But the sad thing is,nobody really want to discuss this EK! It's a bad,ugly fake and that's it....Not the way I like the exchange of knowledge.So your Schinkel is from DN?
Micha
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Not every day?....You're jokin'! I've never seen one before exept this one you've posted at the MCF! I think it's much easier to get an L/50 screwback....
Micha
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Hi Bill-yes,a good scan would be good!
Micha
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That's possible.But I think my scans are good enough to see that DNs copy of the week is a different cross to ours....I would whish these EKs are real,but we should find out more about it. Unfortunately I haven't got a TR period Meybauer with the "early" pin in my collection.Think I will scan it again with 1200 dpi for more details.
Micha
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Reverse
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Hi@all,
after reading George's thread about Meybauer pinbacks in another forum I would like to pick it up again....This "Schinkel" EK1 dropped in a few days ago-and since it arrived I don't know what to do with it! My first thought was:boah,beautyful Meybauer Schinkel-but then I realized that I've never heard anything about this version....then I was reading George's thread and I thought everything is fine....
After posting my cross at the biggest german forum(with the thumb down by everybody) I would like to discuss it here,because I hope to get some better opinions like"fake,bad ugly fake".But let pictures speak........
Micha
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"Schinkel" Reverse
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Schinkel Obverse
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Maker Mark
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Reverse
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I just got these two EKs in-The first one is strange! Magnetic,three piece constructed,but it seems the core was painted after the frame was soldered together.The marking at the ribbon ring says "L/58".Sowhat do you think?
The 2nd one is a beautyful "Schinkel",three piece constructed and magnetic.
Micha
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Großmann or Deumer?
in Germany: All Eras: The Iron Cross
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So fare so good.....so have a look at this one!
Looks like Bill's EK,doesn't it?