Reini

Nice! I count 106. Just amazing. I'm always dumbstruck when you post these. I bow down before you.

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Kurt

and the reverses...

As you can see , the new case needs help staying open...

open...

I've added a new piece and thought I'd throw up a few shots. A second case...

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Kurt

John,

I'm thrilled you like it! I'm glad it has a good home , surrounded by several of its contemporaries I'm sure. Thanks again!

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Kurt

Hello,

Good find! There are some partial lists. It won't be easy , though , most likely , as there are no complete records. Good luck!

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Kurt

Thanks!

All textbook. Very nice! It's great to see some more genuine examples of these highly faked badges.

Do you know anything about the owners? Were any papers available with the badges? Either way , that's a great trio. The 24mm is mint! Thanks again!

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Kurt

Very nice!

The 24mm is superb and the others ain't too shabby , either. Would you care to share the reverses? I find the reverse so much more interesting , just because of the number , but understand if you're witholding the info from fakers.

These are still my favorite badge of the period. Great show!

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Kurt

and the other.

And the rivets seem to have the same raised circle in the center.

the hook...it looks very close , if not exact. Maybe this was an earlier hook that reappeared because of the old mold?

That's very interesting. I like the B&NL badge. Here is a zink Assmann O/G I recently acquired , made in the old aluminum mold. It has exactly the same hook and rivets to my eyes. What do you think?

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Kurt

And with the badge...

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Kurt

ERIC , that's an amazing badge! I wonder how many of the first badges were this style. Just amazing!

So , I'm not the only one who can't find FJ cases? I just received this one a few weeks ago for my Deumer and it's only my second. I have a third tracked down coming soon. This is the earlier cloth-covered version.

Again , a great bunch a badges , especially that early one!

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Kurt

This is the last one for now. This one is interesting because it shows the dirt in the crook of the wing to the far left is one the wreath and the eagle , so they've been together for some time at least. Thanks!

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Kurt

And another...the similarities in the tool marks can be seen clearly in this photo.

Now a couple showing the right and left wings side by side...

And another angle. The E2 is the thicker , lighter eagle.

Here are some shots of the tops of the eagle. The construction is very close to the same. One can see the ridge that has been filed on each. The tool marks are very similar.

You guys both make some great points. Today , I will take some side by sides of the two eagles and we'll see if there are any similariities such as with the hinge.

As for the rarity of the B&NL , I have found the two with the E1 and this E2 all within the last 8 months. Still very rare , but they are around. The chances of there being only 3 of these , and then me finding two more E1s , are also pretty astronomical , but it happened. I must concede , however , that the sudden emergence of the E2 raises a lot of questions.

All I am saying about that axel cut is that such minute simiarities are tough to duplicate without using the same materials and cutting device. Different metals and alloys shear differently , but these look identical , at least to my eyes.

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Kurt

And , finally , the photo that really convinced me that these hinges are exact matches. Look at the cut on the two axles. Those are the same material , cut by the same process , in my opinion.

Please , let me hear your thoughts!

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Kurt

Then I turned them around...

Now , for the most compelling evidence that these were manufactured together. From these photos , one can see that the tiny axle holding the hinge is made of the same material on each badge and was cut with the same device. Different materials shear differently , and these are exact matches , again. Also , the construction of the hinge base is exact , look at the curve of the bottom. These similarities do not happen by accident and are even more impossible to duplicate. This is why I think these E2s were an original eagle.

As for their appearance on other questionable badges , I can only guess that this eagle was copied somehow. That is much easier to arrive at than the idea that the wreaths are original and the E2 was added later. How are the rivets explained? Or the hinges? How could these eagles be attached later with no difference in construction? I find this very interesting!

I've taken three clear , side by side shots , each showing the different sides of the hinges next to each other. On this first one , the bottoms of each baseplate are seen to be exact mtaches , as well as that taper on the inside of the hinge , where the axle rests. See how it is thinner on the outside and then gets thicker as it goes into the plate? That is another exact match , to my eyes.

One can see in the last photo that the rivets are exact matches. Here is another...