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    Noor

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    1. noor. We have some people namned Johannes here in Sweden too (8804 to be exact, altough some could be Estonian by birth. ;) )

      I wrote POW because then you can't lie about where you served, even if it was in the Wehrmacht. So that would end up in your ID. Also if you deserted to the Red Army it would be a plus, in their book. If all Estonian males born 1904-23 were in the German army 1944 then you will have some work ahead if you wanted to send them all to Siberia.

      I am not familiar with soviet practice. But I would think that you would need some sort of paper to show that you have done your mandatory military service or good reason why not.

      If you could post some pics from other pages like those with no.1-8, with rank, speciality etc. no.22; no.23-24 it would be interesting to see if 24 is filled in. That is the award section. :)

      I'm sure that would get us closer to see what he did after/during the war.

      Here is one of my books. You can see some of the stuff you can learn from it. No1-8 tells us lots of stuff what he did as a soldier. The book holding the reserve ID in place is the same guys ww2 ID.

      /Kim

      Of course not all of them didn?t served in the German army. Some of them were in the Red Army (Eesti Laskurkorpus), some of them escape to the Finland and fought in there (200th Infantry regiment in Finland) and some of them didn?t served at all. And those, who didn?t, Red Army tried to mobilize them first 1944.

      When you must proof your past military service and you tell to the Red Army after the Second World War that you were in the German side, you never get any document! Just lots of problems :speechless1: ! I know that most of Estonians who fought with the Germans and cached by the Red Army 1944-1945 started they "trip" in the working camps and 1946 (when i am right) served in the working units in North-East Estonia. And then it is written to ID book, but not in this one.

      I am in work at the moment and extremely busy, I try to make more pictures in coming days and I will post them here.

      I start research now in the Estonia as well about the owner of this ID book. It would be interesting to know, what he did after the war.

      MvH,

      :beer:

    2. Hello,

      Yes kimj. He must be Estonian, because Johannes is 100% Estonian name also Kalm is common in Estonia as well. I don?t understand much, what?s in there. My Russian language is not very good but I can understand some bits and pieces :rolleyes:.

      He was probably serving after the 1944 mobilization in some Estonian regiment (piirikaitser?gement) fighting near lake Peipsi. Germans used Estonian troops as a shield, when they start moving out, also Estonians didn?t wanted to go in Germany, because it wasn?t they war in there anymore. They main interest was protecting Estonia against communism.

      When Red Army occupied Estonia in 1944 again, lots of families hiding in the forest, tried to escape west (using Sweden and Finland mainly) or left from country with German troops. Red Army did as well new mobilization in Estonia and even some man, who was German army, joined now with Red Army, to get ?clean papers?. Of course no one admit service in ?wrong side?. So, in last battles, I know there where even ex 20th Estonian Wafen SS Division volunteers in Red Army :violent:. But usually all of them ascertained by KGB and they finish in Siberia as well.

      That?s the reason, why this document looks so mad to me! How it is possible, that he let wrote service in German army in his Red Army book and why he got it???? POW-s never got this kind a document. So, it must be included some service or work with Red Army after the war?

      :cheers:

    3. Hello,

      I hope this is the right place to ask information regarding one Imperial Russia ribbon bar, what I got few months ago.

      I just wanted to ask, is it possible to track those awards as well (what awards they would be together, because Imperial Russia use similar ribbons with different awards) and also the price level of this bar, because I am interested to trade this item.

      Here is some pictures:

      9665249_GuDQ.jpg

      9665227_TBi9.jpg

      Thanks for looking!

    4. Hello,

      I am new member here from Ireland, its look great site to me - lots of reading and studing! ;)

      First at all I am looking information regarding those two Finnish badges and also France medal. I just want to know, what awards they are, how common they are and what would be the price?

      Finnish badge:

      9652361_HbWO.jpg

      9652371_PjuP.jpg

      Second Finnish one. Is it some vet organisation or "war brothers", etc?

      9652382_X6Y8.jpg

      9652391_EzMj.jpg

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