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    Lapa

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    1. To all:

      As a basis for comparison:

      - Price for a Full Cavalier/Knight set in January 1998 - $3,500.00

      - Price for a Full Cavalier/Knight set in October 2007 - $21,000.00

      - Price for a single Order of Glory 1st Class in June 2000 - $1,570.00

      - Price for a single Order of Glory 1st Class in July 2008 - $17,500.00

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

      If looking brainlessly at these figures, it means that someone having invested in single OG1s would have had a better return :rolleyes:

      Marc

    2. ...The Vice Admiral 20.11.55 is Grigory Ivanovich Tsch.... but once again the deleterious effects of shooting people with good penmanship and filling the higher ranks with officers who last attended school at the age of 12 is plainly evident in the appallingly illegible chicken scratches that passed as Soviet handwriting.

      Rick,

      That would be Schedrin, Grigory Ivanovich

      Marc

    3. Hi all,

      I just heard from Ed and he's declining this time around. Too many irons in the fire right now. And I still can't come up with anything decent.

      Marc (Lapa)... would you care for the honor of the next question? :unsure::beer:

      Dan :cheers:

      Thanks Dan, I'll happily oblige!

      So, that one is more trivia than anything else, but shouldn't be that difficult nevertheless.

      Although never holding any position of authority or command, I was instantly recognized all; it was said that Hitler feared me so much and considered me his personal enemy, that he placed a substantial reward on my head.

      Who am I? Why did Hitler fear me?

      Marc

    4. ...The casing of this particular round is marked 1939, which is an improtant date (in my opinion) as that was when the British were pushed back to Dunkirk and were for the most part evacuated back to England. Many two pounders fell into German hands and were used by them under the designation 4.0 cm Pak 192 (e) or 4.0 cm Pak 153 (b). The "e" and "b" referred to England or Belgium...

      Brian,

      The Battle of Dunkirk took place from 26 May to 4 June 1940. Evacuation began on 27 May and lasted until 4th June.

      This battle resulted in:

      • German soldiers: 10,252 dead, 42,000 wounded, 8,467 MIA
      • Allied soldiers (Dutch, Belgian, French, British): 1,212,000 taken prisoner, 338,226 men evacuated
      The Germans took from the allies approximately 1,200 field guns, 1,250 anti-aircraft guns, 11,000 machine guns and over 25,000 vehicles.

      Marc

    5. People,

      It seems to me that 2 aspects are simply getting agglomerated into one here: historical value and commercial value, although I agree that they may be related to a point.

      I have never questioned or criticized the historical approach to collecting. Now, I can readily understand that, from a historical point of view, a long-service ORS definitely doesn't have quite the same appeal - heh, "value" (in historical terms, that is) - as, say, the one received by the private that took Von Paulus prisoner.

      On the other hand, an unresearched ORS with broken enamel is just that: a Red Star, unresearched and broken. I agree that it holds some historical interest - its recipient most likely did something specific in order to receive it. But as it stands, alone and broken, it is all but potential, and as such, IMHO, does not warrant any sort of a premium.

      Following the logic that has been exposed in the previous few posts, why should any unresearched, broken Red Star be offered for a mere $150? After all, it does hold heaps of human history, albeit more or less interesting. So, what is the value of potential here? $0.77, $200, $500, $7,523 or $1,000,000?

      Had this star been researched, I agree that it would have been a completely different ballgame; we'd have known for sure that it was a reward for an unbelievable feat of courage, or on the contrary some piece of candy for a long-forgotten bureaucrat for whom the word "action" meant getting to the office every day on time. Value (historical and commercial in this case) would have been markedly different.

      But that was not the case, and - at the risk of ruffling some feathers by not being "politically correct for this forum" - it remains an ORS with broken enamel that could possibly, some day, be researched, and turn out to have some historical value beyond its mercantile one; or not!

      Marc

    6. Yeah. As is most often the case I agree completely with Ed.

      A loose, undocumented, unresearched piece like this is... just "broken."

      If it had come with an Orders Book with the recipient's photo, or HAD research already-- then it would be desirable to me.

      Not maybe at current prices, but Back In The Day.

      These "things" are NOT "worth" the National Currency Units as... things. They are "worth" remembering the lives of the Real People who received them. I don't care about Red Stars or whatever. I care about the lives of the Soviet citizens who received awards. Memory, and not silver and (broken) enamel is the attraction for me. That's why current prices make me go :speechless1::speechless1::speechless1:

      :beer:

      Point in case :rolleyes:

      Marc

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