hagwalther

I saw an absolutely superb Cupal IAB on a dealer site for $US325 and was disappointed to find out that it had sold - basically I would have rather had this one (it was excellent) rather that three commoner and average zink IAB's.

In contrast I no longer have any inclination to purchase a Knight Cross due to the price they now cost so I suppose it comes down to what one considers value and what one is prepared to pay when finances allow.

Regards ...

Thanks Gordon, Grant.

Yes, 57 awards do not seem to be easy and I'll keep these for the collection.

Again, may thanks to all.

Regards ...

Thanks Grant,

The front is quite nice in natural light with what looks like some frosting in the 'hard to reach' parts with nicely polished highlights. The swords do look cast being a bit shrunken on the reverse and there maybe an area to the top right of the Oaks were casting bubbles are evident or this may just be a rough finish - I would like more opinions if possible.

With regard to dating - I still have no idea but they did come with the case so Grant, would it be fair ro say that they are at least original 1957 Oaks and Swords?

Regards ...

And the Oaks and Swords in it's case.

Hi Guys,

Following my previous thread

1957 Cased Oaks at

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8096

and the most informed answer given by Gordon Williamson I noted on eBay the next day the following.

Well they arrived today in a little plastic case which is very similar in material and construction to those encountered with 1957 German Crosses.

Note that the top of the Oaks has the cut outs as described by Gordon in the previous threads.

The Swords have been attached to the Oaks and the ribbon loop is attached to the Oaks and touches the Swords.

Both Oaks and Swords are vaulted, of nice detail and appear to be silver plated. No maker marks are apparent.

Size of the Oaks is 20.22mm across and 19.50 mm high.

Swords are 24.4mm across.

Would this be an early 1957 set?

Thanking in advance.

Regards ...

Steinhauer & L?ck made piece, circa 1980s. Earlier pieces were properly cut out in the indicated areas. Later pieces tended to have a circular dished out area in the middle, but flat around the edge, much as continued in the very late 925 silver pieces.

Hi Gordon,

I should have said earlier - that is a very informative and important picture that you have provided.

Many Thanks.

Regards ...

Yep Gordon,s right !

Looks like it has a nice frosted finish to the front

Thanks Grant.

Grant, I have a case which maybe for a 1957 EKII which I will post in the near future for review.

Might be of interest - I've not seen one like it before.

Regards ...

Thanks Gordon.

Very kind of you.

Regards ...

Any Thoughts Guys.

We have lots of information about the 1957 Knights Cross and it would be good to try and find out more about this higher award for future reference.

Thanks !!!

Reverse Views...

Hi Guys,

Would anyone be able to give an opinion on the age of these 1957 Cased Oaks.

I've had them for some years now and would like to know a little more about them.

Thanks !!!

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... and a reverse angle shot together with case and ribbon.

Hi There,

Adding onto this thread - would anyone be able to date these Oaks.

I believe that they are authentic S+L but I would be most interested to find out when they were manufactured.

Reverse in concave with a '800' mark.

Regards ...

Top of case ...

Here's a cased version - both cross and case are 1957 items.

The other give away is the font used in the '4' of '1914' date.

Regards ...