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another single mounted non combat medal:

backside:

makers mark:

Maker D&Co is ???

Next another non combatant:

backside and makers mark:

makers mark:

ERk is maker ???

and after digging out a few more medals here we go again ;-)

Good thing we have some holidays over here, gives me some time to take a few pictures:

After looking at the site again:

Great stuff! and im most surprised you found the makers for KM&F en W.

Last night i googled a bit and couldn't find them, very cool you have found them.

Also i noticed a few pictures of makers marks only and no full shots, i guess it would be easy to pick most marks just from the internet, but im not sure what to think of that? I could give you a site with a few dozens for sale, a lot of makers are to be found there.

Personnally i like the idea of a project here with all new original pictures a bit more ;-)

regards,

Gaston

Christer,

Please feel free to use anything you want, that's why i posted these here in the first place, it's about time these medals finally get investigated a bit better!

Over the next few days/weeks i'll try to post more pictures in this section ;-)

kind regards,

Gaston

Backside:

Maker mark detail:

W is maker ??? Can't find this one again???

Another single mounted medal, this time a combatant version again:

Backside:

Maker mark detail:

K M & F is maker ???? I have no idea and can't find it out so fast?

Another non combatant version, single mounted.

Notice the more round shapes of the inner circle, this is definately something characteristic for this maker!

Backside with makers mark:

Maker mark detail:

G & S is maker Glaser & S?hne from Dresden

kind Regards,

Gaston

Next up a non combatant medal, unfortunately without ribbon:

backside:

maker mark detail:

P&C.L is maker Paulmann & Crone from L?denscheid

regards,

Gaston

Another rare variant, i heard someone calling this the Sachsen style of mounting?

backside:

detail of the maker:

B&N COULD be maker Berg & Nolte out of Ludenscheid??? (im not 100% sure, maybe some of the maker experts can confirm this?)

regards,

Gaston

Here is another combat medal mounted in austrian style:

well, then this one should belong here too i guess, excuse the poor quality, picture taken in a dark room and i couldn't use the flash because the paper is still period framed...

hmm, i had an accompanying letter that came with this group but can't seem to find it, will dig it up later, here is a little picture of an old frame, not in the picture are a miniature and another medal:

always try to get a few variants of a medal,

regards,

Gaston

here are a few more:

paper:

@Terry G: nice ones, but the maker marks should be more clear, that's actually the only part we would want especially highlighted in the list.

regards,

Gaston

Bayoswede, thats the idea yes

A few tips:

- in the second row there are the C= Combat, NC = Non Combat NCB = Non Combat Black listings, you should maybe try to add two more colums giving them those names? We want a column for each medal right? One picture for C, one for NC and one for NCB (or as i prefer W = widows).

- the picture in the "picture-column" now shows a complete backpicture, but with more medals added this would all look the same, maybe only list the makersmark thumbnail and then when you click on it the whole picture shows up?

just a few little ideas, i like this project, it will be immense and we will need LOTS of pictures of close up maker marks on all these medals (i love it ), ill post a few of mine later tonight too.

on http://stirnpanzer.com/forum/index.php there is a first attempt at making a list with all makers, i copied it under here, maybe its usefull. the list is far from complete, but it's a start. (and i don't know if posting links to other sites is allowed, excuse me if not, moderator just delete it then):

Makers Marks

Probably not complete, so new are welcome

Mark Firm Place

A F. W. Assmann & S?hne L?denscheid

A.&S. F. W. Assmann & S?hne L?denscheid

AD. B. L. (im Kreis) Adolf Baumeister L?denscheid (No Swords)

BCO (im Trapez) Biedermann & Co. Oberkassel

B.H. L. unbekannt unbekannt

CEJ C. E. Junker Berlin

C.P. Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen

C.Th.D Carl Theodor Hicke L?denscheid

CW Carl Wild Hamburg

D&C unbekannt unbekannt

DG Gustav Danner M?hlhausen

D.S.M. Deschler & Sohn M?nchen

Erbe (als Script) unbekannt unbekannt

ERK (im Sechseck) unbekannt unbekannt

E S L (im Kreis) unbekannt unbekannt

F&B.L. Funcke & Br?ninghaus L?denscheid

FHB met F

in bovenste deel H

en B in onderste onbekend onbekend (Hinter)

F.&Co. unbekannt unbekannt

F.L. unbekannt unbekannt

G (im Kreis) unbekannt unbekannt

G Extrablatt unbekannt unbekannt

G1, G2, G6,

G7, G8, G9,

G10, G11, G13,

G14, G15, G17,

G18, G19,

G20, G21 unbekannt unbekannt

G.&L. L. unbekannt unbekannt

G. & S. Glaser & S?hne Dresden

Gbr. D. L. (im Kreis) unbekannt unbekannt (Swords)

GG unbekannt unbekannt

GHO G. H. Osang Dresden

GWL Gebr?der Wegerhoff L?denscheid

H&C L Hymmen & Co. L?denscheid

H&C L. (im Kreis) Hymmen & Co. L?denscheid

HM unbekannt unbekannt

HKM unbekannt unbekannt

I.C.M unbekannt unbekannt

JMME unbekannt unbekannt

JK (im Dreieck) unbekannt unbekannt

K (im Dreieck) unbekannt unbekannt

KM&F unbekannt unbekannt

KMF

(in jew. Kreis

untereinander) unbekannt unbekannt

L. NBG. Christian Lauer N?rnberg

M. & W.

STUTTGART unbekannt Stuttgart

MAYER&F?RSTER

STUTTGART Fa. Mayer & F?rster Stuttgart

N (im Dreieck) B&N unbekannt unbekannt

N.&H. oder N.u.H. N?lle & H?ck GmbH L?denscheid

O. Extrablatt Orden-Herstellergemeinschaft Pforzheim

O.1, O.2, O.4,

O.5 (im Kasten),

O.6, O.8, O.10,

O.11, O.12, O.13,

O.14, O.15, O.16 Orden-Herstellergemeinschaft Pforzheim

O&B unbekannt unbekannt

O u C L (in Raute) Overhoff & Cle L?denscheid

P unbekannt unbekannt

P.&C. L. Paulmann & Crone L?denscheid

PM Paul Meybauer Berlin

PSL (im Kreis) unbekannt unbekannt

R.V Pforzheim

Extrablatt Reichsverband Pforzheim

1, 2, 7, 14,

32, 39, No 44,

45, 50, 72,

85 RV. Pforzheim Reichsverband Pforzheim

RV. 9, 13, 24,

26, 34, 37, 38,

43, 47, 67 Pforzheim Reichsverband Pforzheim

RV. Pforzheim 18,

21, 29, 45 Reichsverband Pforzheim

Sch. unbekannt unbekannt

Sch.&H. unbekannt unbekannt

St.&L. Steinhauer & L?ck L?denscheid

T.H.W. unbekannt unbekannt

T.&T. L. Twer & Turck L?denscheid

W (im Quadrat) unbekannt unbekannt

W&L. M. W?chtler & Lange Mittweida

W. D D. unbekannt unbekannt

W.K. unbekannt unbekannt (Swords)

W.R. unbekannt unbekannt

W.SCH.&Co. Wilhelm Schr?der & Co. L?denscheid (Hinter)

(stil. Haus) unbekannt unbekannt

kind regards,

Gaston

(ps: only if i may say so... some TERRIBLE google adds.... )

The idea of finally making a structured list for these medals is great, however, how to make it a nice and easy to overview list?

Posting big pictures of all makers' backsides sure is big help, but in the end we would want a easy to work with list.

I would suggest the following:

A sort of excell database with columns, The first column would contain in alphabetical order the names of the makers, second column their maker marks, third column a thumbnailpicture with the mark, 4th and 5th column if needed any additional information... If it is possible to link the big sized pictures to the thumbnails this could be become a very nice and workable list. I've been playing with the idea to do this on my internetsite but lacked the time to do so. Maybe now is the time since there seems to be some intererst here?

regards,

Gaston

ps: thinking out loud, by adding more column we could add for example other ribbonmountingstyles, certain maker medal details, etc

Terry, that last case of yours is very rare? I have never seen it?

It looks more square? (also a green inlay?)

Any maker marks?

regards,

Gaston

Beautiful miniature chain Rick

here's an old picture with some more mini's

Regards,

Gaston