Dave Suter

Only picture of this one I have, so you'll have to take my word for it, but it's a Dienstrock f?r Offiziere, Rock alter Art (Officer's Service Tunic, Old Style) for a Lieutenant Colonel, Recruiting Office, Military District II, Stettin. The wear out period was 31 March 1942.

The rank patch is made of a one-piece woven metallic Weimar-pattern tress. The Weimar-pattern tress was changed a the end of 1934, so the rank is probably Gefreiter, since from 1920-1936 Gefreiter used two chevrons, changing to one in 1936. From 1936 on two chevrons indicated an Obergefreiter.

The change in tress pattern also helps date the Infantry tunic above, since it uses the latter pattern tress.

Another old style one. For a Lance Corporal who's also an NCO Candidate in the 4th Cavalry Regiment. Notice the sage-green collar & straps, compared to the one above, which is starting to look more like a TR Waffenrock.

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Looks like I have a little free time, so I'll add in some more. Unfortunately, in a lot of cases I don't have seperate straight-on shots of the whole uniform - just the tab/board/eagle close-up.

This one is for a Corporal in the 19th Infantry Regiment. This is an Ausgehrock f?r Unteroffiziere und Mannschaften (Walking-out Tunic for NCOs and Privates). This was an old style tunic that was a carry-over from the Reichswehr. It differed from the old style service tunic in that it doesn?t have belt hooks and has the dress-type collar tabs. It was allowed to be worn until 31 March 1941. The 19th Infantry Regiment was a part of the 7th Infantry Division. It?s home base was Munich (Wehrkreis VII). Fought in South Poland and against the BEF in Belgium. Fought in central Russia and took part in the Battle of Kursk.

This is an original set of insignia for a Kriegsgerichtsrat (Judicial Major) of the h?herer Dienst (High Career) of the Kriegsgericht der Luftwaffe (Luftwaffe Judicial Corps). Only insignia of this branch I've ever been able to get my hands on.

My only other LW one. For a Musikinspizient (Music Superintendent).

Shoulder board for a Signals Musikmeister (Band Leader, Leutnant equivalent). The device is of the non-military/SA type rather than the later military style. This pattern of board was used from 1935 to 1938.

Close-up of the lyre. Shows part of the cardboard template.

I don't have a lot in this area, but I'll add what I can. The only collar tab I have is for a Stabsmusikmeister (Band Leader Captain) of the Air Signals branch. Hardly a mint piece.

YAHOO I didn't remember that Rick posted that on the other forum. I thought it was lost.

And the label with the owner's name. It's Schwenger as I recall. As I said, Rick had it all figured out based on the awards. (Would you do it all again if I can't find it?)

This is (obviously) the tailor's label.

The button-hole ribbon is for the Knight's Cross of the Military Maximilian-Joseph Order, the highest WWI Bavarian award. As for the ribbon bar, some of the awards are Italian and Spanish. Some time ago Ricky helped me and was able to identify every one of them. Unfortunately, that info was either saved on my old Mac (which I've gotten rid of), or is in a drawer somewhere. Ricky, would you be so kind as to help with this again?

A shot of the ribbon bar. It is sewn to the tunic.

Another view off to the side just a bit.

As promised, here's the panzer LTC piped tunic. As I said earlier, all the medals except for the fake Spanish Cross are original to it.

The Jaeger Officer tunic and overcoat display is really something. Did these two items come from the same soldier?

Paul,

The Jager outfit did all come together. The materials and construction all match exactly.

Hello Dave,

is this tunic with the giant ribbon bar named? And did the bar come with the tunic? If so, I would be VERY interested in a close-up of the ribbon bar!

Thanks

Chris

I'm at work right now, but when I get home I'll see what I have for photos. Except for the Spanish Cross on the right pocket, all of the medal, etc. are original to the tunic. (I got it from Jack Angolia, BTW.) Rick R. figured out who the owner was, but I'm not sure of I have that info up here or if it's down the hill. I'll post whatever I have up here when I get home tonight.

I'm always amazed at how many people think this is a medical tunic - I've even seen dealers make the mistake.

Last one for tonight - I've got to get my arse to bed. This one is for a Special Service Officer, Administrative Branch, 1st Lieutenant. The Truppensonderdienst Offizier des Verwaltungsdienst (Special Service Officer, Administrative Branch) was created mid 1944 and replaced the Beamte Intendant and Paymaster Branches.

BTW, my wife bought me this for Xmas a couple of years ago. (Our 40 year anniversary is this May.)

Do you collect tractor related things as well? It's a very nice calendar - fairly rare too. I've never seen one *quite* like it. In 1944, rubber-tires on new farm tractors and machinery were still banned for the duration and the image of the machine in the photo has rubber tires on it BUT it's a representation of a farmer on a tractor so they got around the regulatory law by not actually showing an image of a new Farmall with rubber on it being offered for-sale - but whomever happened to walk into the dealership would have made the mental connection...no one by the mid-40's wanted a new tractor on steel, talk about old-fashioned (even by 1940's US standards). Bumpy as hell too.

You calendar is worth some money. Peanuts compared to your German items, probably 100 to 150$ if you found the right guy. I would love to see a close-up sometime.

-Andrew

Well, speaking of 'found', I actually found this lying in my yard. I have no idea where it came from, and can only assume that it was going to go into someone's trash until the wind intervened. I don't collect anything but militaria, but since this was from 1944, I hung it on the wall.

The next two week-ends the sheriff & undersheriff are out of town, so I'm the 'acting' sheriff and I can't leave the damn county. Once they get back I'll travel down the hill and take a good clear photo of it for you.

A shot of the back of the collar. These EM tunics came from the factory with the enlisted collar tabs and breast eagles sewn on. As you can see, the EM tabs are still there under the officer tabs.

The 1-2-3.

I should be in bed, but what the hell, here's another one. This is an issue enlisted reed green HBT tunic that was upgraded for use by an Ordnance 1st Lieutenant.