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I have never seen these new Russian medals before. I find the labor related medals to be very attractive. Is the Labor Valor medal numbered?

Neg, the only one high enough to deserve a serial number is the FSO's Decoration for Distinction in the Performance of Special Assignments

I tell ya, the little wife can sure be understanding at XMas time when it comes to my collection... The 1st half of my XMas present was a Commander of the Legion of Honour, this is the second half.

I was a wewy wewy good boy!

Top left: Russian Customs Service LSGC medals all 3 classes.

Bottom left: Federal Protective Service LSGC all 3 classes.

Bottom right: MVD (Interior Troops) LSGC all 3 classes

Top right L to R: FSB Medal for Labour Valour, FSO Decoration for Distinction in the Performance of Special Assignments, MVD Medal "For Merit in Financial and Economic Activities".

:D

Very nice! Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to more pics! :cheers:

Welcome to GMIC Tom! Looking forward to seeing your collection!

Were they made for award to each other? (Exchange?) To other Cossacks?

I had seen his name a few times when I came accross modern Cossack Orders and medals but this is the first time I took some time to read his biography, quite an impressive man! It's rare to see a soldier reach such a high point in his military career to decide to return to his roots and a simpler life. I think it's an additional tribute to the man's character.

Thanks for pointing me that way... :cheers:

Quite the man actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataman_Platov

Are these medals or jetons? Were they awarded for anything in particular?

What great family history! I salute you for keeping your family's military heritage alive! Thanks for sharing, great frame!

Really superb! :)

Sorry for taking so long in translating this quite extensive document.

Major changes:

-Order of Alexander Nevsky is a purely civilian award;

-Medal for merit in the all Russian census is removed from the list of state ODMs.

Below is the new Order of Precedence for Russian State ODMs.

The title of Hero of the Russian Federation;

Order of St. Andrew;

Order of Saint George;

Order " For Merit to The Fatherland";

Order of Alexander Nevsky;

Order of Suvorov;

Order of Ushakov;

Order of Zhukov;

Order of Kutuzov;

Order Nakhimov;

Order of Courage;

"Order of Military Merit";

"Order of Naval Merit";

Medal of Honour;

Order of Friendship;

Order "Parental glory";

St. George Cross;

Insignia "For meritorious service";

Medal of the Order "For Merit to The Fatherland ";

Medal "For Bravery";

Medal of Suvorov;

Medal of Zhukov;

Medal of Ushakov;

Medal of Nesterov;

Medal of Pushkin;

Medal "Defender of a Free Russia";

Medal "For Distinction in Protection of Public Order";

Medal "For Distinction in Protection of the State Borders";

Medal "For Life Saving";

Medal "For work in agriculture";

Medal "For development of the railways";

Medal "For Service in outer space exploration";

Medal of the Order of "Parental glory";

"Pilot-Cosmonaut of the Russian Federation";

"People's Artist of Russia";

"People's Architect of the Russian Federation";

"People's Teacher of the Russian Federation";

"People's Artist of the Russian Federation";

All other honorary titles of the Russian Federation…

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaah OK... Thank you very much, now that makes a lot more sense. I know the odd ribbon in the wrong order of precedence isn't that rare, but your bar really threw me for a loop. Your explanation is quite plausible.

IMHO, the Austrian ribbon was accidently reversed with the Frontkampferkreuz. Switch those 2 and the bar makes more sense don't you agree?

Thanks for the info on the Lion Order, I had only seen a few before but none were hanging from a ribbon.

Great bar! Cheers!

Well... To be honest with you, I have a few questions about it.

Ribbon 2nd from left... Looks like a wrong ribbon to me...

Ribbon 5th from left, looks like EK2 ribbon but wouldn't go there prior to or after 1935 regs. Are colours wrong because of pour pic?

Ribbon, 2nd from right... What on Earth is that?

He either received an out of auction offer he couldn't refuse or a bidder proved they were modern repros...

Nice to see a picture, thanks! But by the same token, quite disapointing... It's a single strand like the fourragère de l'Order de la Libération... They look MUCH nicer when of the weaved multi strand type like the others.

no it is not. there was the flutmedaille 1962 which was awarded by three states, Hamburg, Bremen, Schleswig-Holstein.

Hallo fregatte, I think you might've misunderstood. The Einsatzmedaille Fluthilfe 2002 is the only federally created and bestowed medal of its kind.

The 3 you mention were not federal awards.

Great picture!! You must be very proud! :)

I think this badge goes back to 1966 but I can't find it in my refs right now... Gimme a few days.

ИАС ВВС stands for инженерно-авиационная служба Военно-воздушных сил which translates into Aviation-Engineering Service of the Air Force. The aircraft, wings and colours confirm this is military.

50 лет means 50 years, so definitely a commemorative piece. This commemorative badge is to denote the 50th anniversary of the service.

I'm at work right now and can't dig any deeper. I'll try to find out more tonight from home.

I "finally" found the text of the ministerial order:

Awarded to military and civilian personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and to foreign troops, military formations and bodies, for active participation in the preparation of personnel, of weapons and of military equipment for the military parade on Victory Day in Moscow, in other Hero cities as well as in cities where military districts headquarters, fleets headquarters, combined forces headquarters as well as the Caspain Flotilla headquarters are located; for distinction during the military parade in Moscow, in other Hero cities, as well as in cities where military districts headquarters, fleets headquarters, combined forces headquarters as well as the Caspian Flotilla headquarters are located.

Do you know the history behind the tradition? I tried to do a search before bringing it up but couldn't find any references to it. Be interested to know how it originated, etc. Thanks! Dan

The paymaster used to scratch his "nether regions" a lot and there was a shortage of soap...? :whistle:

I had seen this badge a few times before but only just recently found the ministerial order confirming it's an official defense ministry award.

Commemorative Decoration for 300 Years of the Clothing Service of the Armed Forces 1700 - 2000. Established on February 4, 2000 by ministerial order 65. Awarded to military and civilian personnel as well as to veterans of the Clothing Service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with at least 20 years service: for distinction in the performance of official duties, during special assignments, or for activities aimed at strengthening the Rear of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

The award is a screw back type worn on the right breast pocket.

Wow... I also had no idea!... Thanks for sharing and educating me. :cheers:

All of which brings me to the following...

Commemorative/jubilee/memorial badge for 225 Years of the Black Sea Fleet 1783 - 2008. I have found 2 different examples.

I've searched and searched for months. I found 1/2 a dozen pictures of the fleet commander bestowing the "badge" but none show the darn thing! The angle of the camera never allows for a positive ID. I would be VERY GRATEFUL to anybody able to tell me which was given by the fleet commander in 2008.

I would also be VERY GRATEFUL to anybody able to give me a link to ANY page containing the Order of these fleet (formation) commanders concerning these badges. I've searched for months on Russian fleet web sites but most are too large and complex for my limited Russian.

Since these "badges" are not considered awards, (eventhough their prerequisites are often more stringent), they are worn after all service awards. This young naval officer proudly wears the "Commemorative Badge 70 Years of the Northern Fleet" after his service awards as per regulations. His other medals are (L to R) the Medal for Military Valor 2nd class and the Medal for Distinguished Military Service 3rd class.

Such "badges" are not solely seen in the Navy, all branches of the Armed Forces and in fact, all military forces also from outside of the Defense Ministry bestow and wear such "commemorative/jubilee/memorial badges". Many were (and still are) originally produced by civilian or veterans' organizations such as the Russian Awards Committee and simply adopted by formation commanders (naval fleets, air wings, army divisions etc). These non military organizations actually go out of their way to include the authority of such military formation commanders into the initial award description to ease the process. Some badges are produced from the start under the authority of the formation commander.

A good way to spot these "badges" is by the absence of the inscription "Ministry of Defense - Russian Federation" from the reverse of the coin or the inside of the award document. The award document will bear the emblem of a particular branch or sub department vice the ministerial emblem, or be devoid of any such emblem. The presence of an official military (albeit non ministerial) stamp in the award document is usually there. A stamp from one of the civilian or veterans' organizations would mean a badge not bestowed by a military official.

The different branches of the Russian Armed Forces often use commemorative medals or decorations (badges) to periodically (every 5, 10 or 25 years) reward their members for outstanding service, such awards are usually also awarded to eminent citizens such as politicians, the clergy, members of the defense industry, etc, who are friends of the service/branch. These have been in the form of Ministerial medals such as the medal for 300 Years of the Baltic Fleet, decoration for 300 Years of Naval Infantry, decoration for 100 Years of the Submarine Force, etc.

Not every service or sub department can get ministerial approval for their commemorative/jubilee/memorial medals/badges/decorations, one such example was when the minister, upon being shown the prototype commemorative decoration for 50 Years of Strategic Rocket Troops (see pic below), simply smiled, said "why?", and walked away without signing the Order to the amazement of all present.

Awards must be approved by the minister. Decorations and medals are considered awards. So how can a service branch or sub department get around this? By calling the "item" a commemorative/jubilee/memorial "badge". It looks like a medal, it simply isn't called a medal.

Below is such an example, the commemorative/jubilee/memorial "badge" for 70 Years of the Northern Fleet. This "badge" was bestowed under the authority of the fleet commander himself. It was bestowed to thousands of serving members of the fleet, veterans of the fleet, and like similar ministerial "items", to eminent personalities.

Since this award can be worn on the military uniform, an award document (attestation) was produced bearing the emblem of the Russian Navy on its cover and details of the fleet commander's Order on the inside.

Took me long enough but I finally found the new web site: http://award.gov.ru/const.html

It's not as ornate as the previous one but is much more complete. It includes the latest ODMs and the major changes that occured in 2010 but alas, very few pics, mostly drawings. The few pics there are small and of quite limited quality.

On the plus side, it contains a great deal more information such as:

-Each award ceremony has its own page with pictures of the recipients being decorated and the applicable order with write up for each recipient.

-Multi links to Kremlin press releases and videos of the ceremonies.

You can get lost in there for hours! I particularly appreciated seeing military dress uniforms being worn with full ODMs, it's nice to actually see the veritable plethora of awards being worn.

Enjoy the visit!

...but this one doesn't look like a period example to me.

It looks more like a converted jewellery or cutlery case.

Then again, of course, I could be wrong....

Then we'll be many in the group, I was thinking the very same thing... :whistle: