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    TacHel

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    1. I checked 4 French web sites about the 89th. No mention whatsoever of colonial campaigns.

      The regiment was stationed at the "Caserne Gémeaux" in Sens from the mid 1850s to 1914. It spent the entire war of 14-18 as part of the 10th Infantry Division.

      IMHO, the 2 most likely candidates would be a Croix de Guerre (1915 or 1916 due to your 1916 end date) and a Médaille Militaire. There were no long service awards in those days for French NCOs and the medal for the wounded did not yet exist (even today's version is non official). The only other possibility would be if he had served in another unit prior to going to the 89th, but that is unlikely, just in like many other armies of the day, soldiers usually remained with the same unit for their entire length of service.

      Another interesting point for your uniform, the 89th was awarded a fourragère in the colours of the WW1 Croix de Guerre for 2 mentions. 2 of its 3 WW1 battle honours precede 1917 meaning the owner of the uniform most probably took part in these engagements. A fourragère always looks great on a period uniform!

      Hope this helps!

    2. Nice!

      Translation of the page:

      Top: The 110 years of Lazare Ponticelli

      Bottom:

      Mother to son: Don't participate in this war Lazare! I don't want to see my child die!

      Lazare to mother: Mom, I enlisted at a young age. In order to relate it all in my old age.

    3. But what about some Medal Bars with Croix de guerre?

      I never saw a French one...

      Emanuel,

      I've never seen a French medal bar, period. They wear their medals all individually pinned on the uniform. I've seen the odd attempt at a bar but since they wear their medals only 3 wide, it gets complicated and quite cumbersome really fast.

    4. Eight months later...

      L to R, Excellent Marksman, Excellent Sailor, Excellent Airborne, Excellent Space Troop.

      I have yet to see a single picture of Russian servicemen or women wearing these. The above model is easily found on Russian ODM auction sites, while the model with the flag mostly shows up on eBay.

    5. No , not curious at all... this bar dates exactly from the years 1895-1897 because the oakleaves were given out in 1895 for the 25 year jubilee of the 1870 war !!! Centennial medal comes in 1897 , so we have the small time gap of two years when this bar must have been made....

      Good point... :rolleyes:

      This is the first time I've seen a Red Eagle Order on a non-combattant ribbon, absolutely awesome set!:jumping:

    6. I've looked through a few Russian heraldic sites but couldn't find it...

      The one thing that surprised me about this medal was the choice of ribbon. It's in the colors of the Foreign Intelligence Service, a completely separate organization, almost a rival within Russia. They merely used the ribbon from the Medal for "Veteran of the Foreign Intelligence Service" and reversed it.

    7. Fourragères are not individual awards, they are unit awards. An individual earning a CdG will not get a fourragère. A fourragère is worn by all of the unit members when the unit as a whole was awarded a CdG.

      Now, as far as design goes, my knowledge is a bit limited, but I believe the cords (over and under arm) differ because of the makers. Many wore French made fourragères which differed from the later US made ones. I have both French and US made example and although similar in color, it stops there! The US made examples are much simpler in design then their European counterparts.

      I'll take pictures of the ones I have as sson as I have a few minutes, you'll see the differences.

      The outer cords were for citations numbering above 9 times if memory serves...

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