paul wood

Imperial Railwaymans badge?

Very nice.

Paul

Nick please desist from showing all these lovely phantasies as my ribs are suffering from severe and painful bruising to to excessive laughter.

Paul

Paul - from what you have said - did you have a problem with the thread not appearing ?

Unfortunately , with the updates, this does happen. However, at the bottom you will see - in small print -

last autosaved. Press this and a message will comeup. Cancel this and a second 'saved' message should

pop-up. Press this and I find the original message downloads.

Finally came up on the third attempt. The previous two I did were no problem (perhaps the computer said no). Thanks for the info.

Paul

Alas said scumbag will cost the taxpayer many hundreds of thousand during his stay as a guest of Her Majesty, while the abolished method cost a minute fraction less.

Paul

Maybe in the next millenium this reply might go through. This is the only thing that bugs me with this brilliant forum.

Kirk does not ring a bell in relation to the orders, however when I see the images I will be able to do a bit of digging.

Paul

Paul

Thanks for the additional details! Orders are not my strongest suit. You're obviously thinking 'military, high rank' for the recipient. One of the world wars I'd assume - Greece is an odd one, I would have thought.

I wondered about a diplomat myself. The most impressive collection of orders I've ever seen, though all lower classes, was a bag of 8 or 10 to the stationmaster at one of the London rail stations -in the late Victorian era. He had one of everything, including Turkish. Presumably every time a head of state arrived by train in London this guy got another gong.

Peter

The Otto I Greek Order is not as odd as you think. Many Brits got them, naval officers for the battle of Navarino and several brit officers on the Ionian Islands (which were Brit till 1862) who were involved with the various boundary commissions of the newly independent Greece.

Paul

Paul, Thanks for your information. I am a avid coin collector and a friend of mine brought me her dads collection to organize for her kids. She handed me a box of metals and asked if I knew anything. I use forums for my hobbies..... Knife, Gun and coin collecting and told her I could find something out on these. I am unsure of her intent to keep or sell but I too am not a fan of Evilbay and prefer to do my selling on Forums. I do not think there is much of a sentimental attachment to the metals so I assume she may sell at some point.

Thanks again for the information.

JD

JD,

Is there any provenace to these awards it certainly looks as if the majority (if not all the pieces) were awarded to one person. On the Bath badge, the white enamelled cross should be hallmarked on the gold below the suspension, if so what are the marks (date letter is especially important). Also are there any silver British campaign medals included. If so it is quite likely that one or more will be named and therefore put the whole jigsaw together.

Sorry to be a bit testy in the earlier reply but we have seen so many instances when we have helped people with their enquiries and in some cases spent quite a lot of time researching only to see them being offered for sale on E-bay a few days later. If these items were to be sold I would recommend you considering placing them with a UK auction house as a lot (but far from all) of the value is associated with the Bath insignia.

Look forward to receiving more information.

Paul

Peter,

Thanks so much for the information. This will be great help. Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

JD

4 is uncertain any chance of a better image (preferably both sides) possibly 2nd Empire Legion d'Honneur Knight, 5 Is Order of the Redeemer (Greece) Otto I issue (1833-63), Officer's breast badge, the last (6) which is a bit of an Afro-Caribbean in the woodpile is the French Order of St. Louis (obsolete 1830). The other orders suggest Crimean War period.

These are quite valuable orders but without knowing the purpose for valuation (I don't want to help someone make a lot of money from Evilbay) this is as far as I am prepared to go.

Paul

I think the best medal that came out of Russia was in the 1990's was the commemorative for the first McDonalds a truly fantastic work of art. When are they going to do a McMammoth medal (burgers made from the finest Siberian defrosted mammoth meat) or does it exist already?

Paul

A closer view of the coins. All preDecimal, of course.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2012/post-6209-0-81277000-1347806691.jpgclick

Mervyn

The 1937 proof silver and bronze set included, crown, halfcrown, florin, English and Scottish shilling, sixpence, silver and nickel brass threepence, penny, halfpenny and farthing as well as the maundy set (4 3 2 and 1 pence). You are lacking the silver currency threepence and the maundy penny. A complete set now sells for around £250. Even with the deficiencies it should still be worth £150.

All the best,

Paul

Nowadays If one walked across Mitcham at night one would encounter several hooded figures armed with knives. Things don't change.

Paul

The giving of Baronacies goes back to 1629 but you are right the type you have (Baronet of the United Kingdom) was introduced in 1929 at the period you mention the badges would have been manufactured by the Royal Mint, I wonder was it given for services to ancient Italian virgins.

Paul

Your Identification appears to be correct to me.

Paul

Funeral of Sir John Moore by Charles Woolfe

Not a drum was heard, nor a funeral note,

As his corse to the rampart we hurried;

Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot

O'er the grave where our hero we buried.

We buried him darkly at dead of night,

The sods with our bayonets turning;

By the struggling moonbeam's misty light

And the lantern dimly burning.

No useless coffin enclosed his breast,

Nor in sheet nor in shroud we wound him;

But he lay like a warrior taking his rest

With his martial cloak around him.

Few and short were the prayers we said,

And we spoke not a word of sorrow;

But we steadfastly gazed on the face that was dead,

And we bitterly thought of the morrow.

We thought, as we hollowed his narrow bed

And smoothed down his lonely pillow,

That the foe and the stranger would tread o'er his head,

And we far away on the billow!

Lightly they'll talk of the spirit that's gone

And o'er his cold ashes upbraid him,--

But little he'll reck, if they let him sleep on

In the grave where a Briton has laid him.

But half of our heavy task was done

When the clock struck the hour for retiring:

And we heard the distant and random gun

That the foe was sullenly firing.

Slowly and sadly we laid him down,

From the field of his fame fresh and gory;

We carved not a line, and we raised not a stone,

But left him alone with his glory.

Paul

Nick thanks for sharing what a beauty.

Paul

The Grand Duke of Baden Collection, Hermann Historica, 20/10/2000 lot 12, 10 link chain with badge, 25 x 14.5mm, wt. 12g, estimate 12,000 DM sold for the same.

Those were the days my firend to missquote Mary Hopkin.

Paul

LG 1/5/55

Hope this helps 2 R's in morrison in Gazette.

Paul

The undermentioned Gentlemen being about to

be attached to the Medical Staff of the Turkish

Contingent Force to have the local rank in Turkey

of Staff-Surgeon of the Second Class while so

employed.

Thomas Littleton, M.B. Dated 1st May, 1855.

. Henry P. Bennett, Esq. Dated 1st May, 1855.

Thomas Coutts Morrison, Esq. Dated 1st May,

1855.

Christopher Wolston, Esq. Dated IstMay, 1855.

William Druce Cattle, Esq. Dated 1st May,

1855.

Robert Boxall, Esq. Dated 1st May, 1855.

This is No 3 that will be coming up in auction at Morton and Eden in November. Alas at present I can't post the obverse because it is 307 KB. It reminds of all for the want of a nail but I won't go too far down that line. I'll see if next week I can get the other side scaned in low resolution.

Paul

My distant cousin, Percy Thrower also received an M.B.E. for being a gardener. Rather interesting fellow.

Related to the great Percy Thrower, fantastic. The originator of televison gardening programmes with I believe it was called "Gardening Club", in the days when you watched it on a crackling small black and white set and there were only two channels, I can even remember the tune. I know he had a later comeback with the Blue Peter Garden which some yobs went and vandalised. Forget your Charlie Dimmock's, Aaln Titchmarshes and all your new television gardening buffs, Percy was the one and only, a giant amongst later pygmies.

Windu,

All I can say is that the Order of Loyalty was closely copied from the Brazilian Order of the Rose.

Paul

Thanks Nick he looks a lot happier

Paul

Dude with the hat

First row 1 Empire of Brazil Order of the Rose, can't even see a third row apart from a whacking great star

Paul

Having received a copy of the book earlier this week and having seen it through the draft stages I can only say that I am truly astounded.

The book starts of with a brief resume on pre DD decorations, gives a a very good and well illustrated guide to the type 1 DD. But when it gets to the type 2 it is absolutely breathtaking, it is lavishly illustrated showing a wide range of types and variations, including warrants of appointment and cases of issue and in some cases ribbons. The book is by far the best thing that I have ever seen on the Order. Tammann had a work which never got past the embryonic stage, I had a draft, and that was better than anything previous. The text is written with a clarity that is rarely seen in a specialist book and is equally suitable for a generalist with no knowledge of the order to a specialist who has seen dozens of examples. Like the best of teachers Gavin keeps it simple and doesn't assume previous knowledge of the reader. The best bit, for me, are the appendices which are a guide to the seal script and Manchu characters found on the orders, again these are clear and simple so that anyone will find them easy to use. Alas my colleague has taken my copy with him to OMSA, I have warned him that if he does not return it his chances of fathering further chilldren will be zero.

Even if you have even the slightest interest in world orders and decorations you will enjoy this book. If you are interested in Chinese orders then this is the best thing since whisky distilling. I am hoping that one day Gavin will tackle thre republican orders and later the infernal mine field of war lord orders and decorations. This is an exceptional first venture in to medal publishing. Buy a copy you won't be dissappointed.

Paul

Thanks Owain,

I think I was getting confused with a Sudanese medal which I believe also has a shield and crossed spears, still very unusual and never encountered one before.

Paul