paul wood

I could be posting this in the wrong part of the forum.. But anyway here it is. Can somebody Id this award? The pic is poor as it's from a crappy quality .pdf. Thanks for your time!

/Kim

Certainly Chinese with seal script characters but what I have no idea.

Paul

Thank you Darrell, Ulsterman and Paul for your information. Were the Waterloo medals issued at the same time? I think I read the MGS medals were issued years after and I'm not sure when he settled here. My wife's aunts wrote a small book about the early Fowler days in Ontario. I'll have to track a copy down. I've attached a pic of his headstone. It's a small quiet cemetery, about 1/2 K from a 4 lane highway. I don't think anyone would notice it driving by. So I'm off to do some more investigating.

Thanks again!

The Waterloo medal was issued at the time 1815 while the MGS was not issued until 1848. Hence one can have a pair to the same recipient where the Waterloo is well knocked about (wearing your Waterloo medal was a good stratagem to achieve a free beer) and Military General Service is in nigh mint condition as you had to be at least in your 50s to receive the medal and many were older and of course while while the number of Waterloo medals issued to those who served in the Peninsula War was high the numbers who survived to received their MGS was considerably smaller.

All the best,

Paul

Oh

My

God!

That is THE FINEST Black Watch medal I have ever seen. That folks is one of the best Napoleonic medals extant.

THANK YOU!!!!! for posting it.

Is on the Waterloo roll in Captain Robert Boyle's Company. No record of it coming up for auction so it may have gone to another branch of the family (or possibly the pawnbrokers after Waterloo).

Paul

Wil / Paul,

There are four awards in this series, all instituted and noted in the Sudan Defence Force Gazette of 4 November, 1933:

Distinguished Service Decoration (Silver)

Native Officer's Decoration (Silver)

Long Service & Good Conduct Medal (Bronze)

General Service Medal (Silver)

Wil - the one with the camel is the Distinguished Service Decoration - the scarcest of the series - is yours named?

The recent DNW auction had all four for sale as singles - I am missing the Native Officers Decoration from my collection and was outbid at the auction!

Regards,

Owain.

Many thanks for the useful information. The literature on this series is scant to say the

least.

Paul

Wil / Paul,

There are four awards in this series, all instituted and noted in the Sudan Defence Force Gazette of 4 November, 1933:

Distinguished Service Decoration (Silver)

Native Officer's Decoration (Silver)

Long Service & Good Conduct Medal (Bronze)

General Service Medal (Silver)

Wil - the one with the camel is the Distinguished Service Decoration - the scarcest of the series - is yours named?

The recent DNW auction had all four for sale as singles - I am missing the Native Officers Decoration from my collection and was outbid at the auction!

Regards,

Owain.

Many thanks for the useful information. The literature on this series is scant to say the

least.

Paul

OBVERSE OF THE MEDALS

I suspect it is an earlier version of the 1933 medal as it has the same Governor Generals seal on the reverse. The image of Gordon on a camel is a reproduction of the statue of Gordon which used to stand in Khartoum, possibly used as a follow up to Khedive's Sudan last awarded in 1922. I am sure however that there are some Sudanese buffs who will be able to give you chapter and verse.

All the best,

Paul

and the rest of the rim! so is there any chance of find out why it was awarded? maybe unit history local papers if i can find him??

thanks for any help!!

Your best bet would be to contact the museum where the corp journal may give more information.

You should contact the Royal Logistical Corps Museum (Who would have the ASC records)

Princess Royal Barracks,

Deepcut,

Nr Camberley, Surrey GU16 6RW

Many BEM are retirement gifts for long and meritorious service but I wish you luck and hope you can find out more about the guy.

All the best,

Paul

Greetings All.

I have the opportunity to buy a Chinese Breast Star which the seller states is a "Chinese Kuomintang Military Breast Star." I have attached a Low Resulution photo, but have 5 higher resolution photos on PhotoBucket, by following this link:

http://s752.photobuc...ast%20Star%202/

I know nothing about this breast badge. As such, I have the following questions, for which I would greatly appreciate everyone's assistance:

1. Is this Chinese (sounds stupid, but...)?

2. Is this an Original Government-issued breast star or some type of fantasy item or theater prop?

3. From what time period?

4. When was it established / when was it dissolved?

5. From what Government (Kuomintang?)?

6. Is it military or civil?

7. What was it awarded for?

8. Who was eligible to receive it (military, government officials, royalty, civil, foreigners)?

9. Is it rare (how many were issued, if known)?

10. What would you estimate the value (help me determine if I should buy it)?

Any an all comments are appreciated.

Thank you in advance. Linas

Linas,

These pieces appear to be particularly nasty fakes (japanese included). Made by the Chinese "cottage industry" avoid them like a dose of bubonic plague.

Paul

A side photo of the same 3rd class cross.

Please advise!!

The engraving gives it away definitely a wrong un.

Paul

Elmar: I have ment the little ribbon(i dont mean the trifold ribbon).. As far as I know, ribbons (with or with without miniature) were introduced in A-H army during WWI.. so not everyone became a medal with little ribbon... so they had to buy it... or?

For those who would like to own one cased Karl-Troops cross, there is one now in auction...

Wow, I have seen literally hundreds of truppenkreuz but first case I have ever seen. Often true with very common medals that the case is worth many times more than the medal.

Paul

I had not considered before that the ribbon could be the Soviet Order of Glory. That is a match. As you know, many times these St. George Crosses for sale don't even have a ribbon at all. Over a decade ago when I bought this one, I was happy that it had a ribbon and hanger.

I will have get some better photos of the cross itself. It is very dark, and the number stamp on the back is very deep. Again, why put a second bow on top of the first one?

I would like to learn more about the variations in St. George Crosses. My reference books don't mention it, and don't have different photos.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Probably the best reference for Russian award medals is Mikhail Diakov, Medals of Imperial Russia Published in 7 volumes between 2004 and 2007. It is primarily a work on commemorative medals but lists all the award medals from Peter the Great to Nicholas II including the St. George Crosses, written in both Russian and English it provides a lot of useful back ground information and is well illustrated gives issue figures in many cases.

All the best,

Paul

They were never issued with a ribbon, Mervyn's example is as issued

(possibly attached to the swimming trunks)

Paul

Mervyn

Isn't there a society of collectors of life saving awards? Hopefully one of our number is a member who can help.

Nice group as always, I've never tried to research a UK police group but can't imagine it's that easy.

Simon

Mervyn,

Its the Royal Life Saving Society's medal for swimming proficiency.

Paul

Mervyn

Isn't there a society of collectors of life saving awards? Hopefully one of our number is a member who can help.

Nice group as always, I've never tried to research a UK police group but can't imagine it's that easy.

Simon

Mervyn,

Its the Royal Life Saving Society's medal for swimming proficiency.

Paul

Hello Chuck and Paul, thanks for answers.

I have next "unknown" variant of Bravery medal.

I. class must be made from gold, or not?

http://007.007.sweb....ilitary/MB2.jpg

The reverse looks decidedly unofficial to me.

Paul

My Avers-3 mentions only a 30mm gold variant. I've never seen one so I have no experience with the gold.

Chuck

The Imperial issues are known in 30 and 28 mm. however the quality looks quite good am wondering whether it is a White Russian award 1918-20 hence the size variation.

Paul

As we approach the 65th anniversary of the atomic bombs, let's not lose sight of the wider picture.

This short video clip features a former prisoner of the Japanese - one of countless thousands whose lives were changed by the bombings in a way that is hardly ever mentioned today.

Reminds me of the story told by my school religious studies teacher in the 1970's who had been a Military Chaplain. He evidently was going to be on the first wave of the land invasion of Japan which was "Operation Certain Death". When he heard that Japan had surrendered after the Nagasaki bomb he definitely was most grateful that the bombs had given him a further lease of life although he was shocked by the horrific results of the weapons.

Paul

Hello Paul,

Thank you for your help could you advise best place to sell or even is it worth the bother to sell as i have no interest in it .

David

Not hugely valuable I would have thought no more than £40-50 , although some of the Iron Cross buffs here can give you chapter and verse.

All the best

Paul

Hello,

This belonged to my great grandfather could you help identify from the photos please.

Regards David

1914 Iron Cross Second Class by H. J. Wilm of Jerusalemstrasse Berlin.

Paul

Yes I think it's the MSM card too as no number is present. I don't have his number either.

So does Indian Supply and Transport Corps mean limited research unless I can somehow find his number or what JS stands for? Did you find the gazette entry Paul?

Tony

London Gazette 22 September 1919 Page 11779 "...in recognition of valuable services rendered with the British Forces in Mesopotamia." In 1919 UK army list as Temporary Warrant Officer ASC, Supply and Transport, Temporary Rank from 3 March 1915. Page 2285C. Possibly seconded to the Indian Army so you may be able to find out more about him. Doesn't appear in later army lists so presumably discharged after the war.

All the best,

Paul

Service number? Theres are a few j. Neals......

I think I've found him on the National Archives:

http://www.nationala...1&resultcount=1

Indian Supply and Transport Corps according to the Gazette. Not in the 1924 Indian Army War Services List nor in the 1919 IAL.

All the best,

Paul

I probably didn't explain myself very well... Still jet lagged...

I'm absolutely thrilled at this model! Sacristain models are much rarer and I didn't expect as much. I was looking for a Barre model simply because it's 300 EUROs+ cheaper. When my finance minister (wife) said "go for it", I almost fainted!

Nice with original riband, quite hard to find thus.

Paul

School of Ensigns of the Engineer troops in Petrograd, Provisional Government issue (Patrikeev Vol. I, 1.7.31)

While pretty poor quality it looks OK to me and is quite a rare item I would have thought has to be worth at least $1000

All the best,

Paul

Hello,

Can anyone tell me what an Acting Conductor in the Supply and Transport Companies may have done during the Great War?

Would he have been in the ASC, AOC, worked on busses or had something to do with music?

What's the rank of Acting Conductor equivalent too?

I've bought a medal to a soldier of that rank but can't find his MIC although I did find his MSM award card which doesn't show his service number.

Thanks

Tony

Acting Conductor of Supplies, senior NCO in the ASC and STC

Paul

Paul - I can see marks to the left of the reverse - not sure about the other side. Perhaps it is edge knocking from other medals ? The suspender also has a slight lean - but, I see no signs of the claws being re-mounted. However - your eyes are probably better than mine....

Mervyn,

if you look especially on the C to I of VICTORIA you can see a slightly oval lighter patch, it is not so clear in the photo of the opposite side but still evidence. A skilled jeweller, and I speak from experience, can replace a claw as if it was never removed.

All the best,

Paul