paul wood

Indian State of Bhalwalpur (in present day Pakistan) war medal 1914-19, should be named on the rim (usually to the transport corps).

Nice medal can you give details of the naming.

Paul

Again looks like a French made piece in silver-gilt similar period to the last and probably the two originaly came together, depends on the size as to value.

Paul

Not sure what the size is but it looks like a French made Order of St George (as awarded to officers and never numbered), value very much depends on the size but looks WWI period.

Paul

Moroccan Order of Civil Merit, 1st class.

Paul

In reasonable condition bronze about £100, silver £200-300, gold £1,000

Paul

It will not be in MYB as it is purely a commemorative piece, the reference I have used is "British Historical Medals 1837-1901" by Laurence Brown, no. 3514, (the book lists 97 different 1897 jubilee commemoratives and there are probably nearly as many not listed), certainly if you can get buy a copy it is a good investment.

Paul

on the side with the fortress of Akka is the date AH 1256 (1840) and below the Turkish inscription "The Country of Syria and the fortress of Akka".

Paul

That is gorgeous, I wonder where the other two are.

Paul

It's a commemorative medal for the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria designed by Frank Bowcher and retailed by Spink and Son. It was made in 18ct gold, silver, bronze, gilt white metal, oxidised white metal and white metal. All but the gold examples are relatively common. The gold medal was sold for £12/10/-, the silver for 25/-, bronze 5/6d, gilt white metal 2/6d, oxidised white metal 2/6d, white metal 1/-. Your example appears to be silver (or possibly white metal).

Hope this is of help,

Paul

The Indian medal system can produce many anomalies and while they shouldn't happen they do, for example I have a KSA, 1 clasp SA 1902to a recipient who was entitled to a QSA with the same clasp (obviously had a few spare KSAs knocking about). I also have a EVII Indian MSM awarded to a member of the state forces but awarded for the Great War and in the GOI of 1920 (he's only a country bumpkin, both kings have beards, he will be none the wiser). While there should not be a Defence medal with an Indian Service Medal (and this is where many of those who make up groups foul up). Whether due to incompetence or human error the combinations does occur albeit quite rarely. When looking at the Indian award system one should not confuse it with the British system where such errors very rarely if ever happened.

Paul

Like the trendy blue jacket worn by king Khosikhulu Toni Mphephu Ramabulana. I need to find out who his taylor is.

Paul

Maybe they had a camel section in the Calgary Stampede.

Paul

I would have thought around $500, however if you have two buyers who both have the badge and want the case possibly more.

Years ago cases made very little but now collectors like to have an original case for their orders.

Paul

Many British officers not involved in combat duty received Ordes without swords.

These will be listed as Order of ...

when issued with swords these are listeed (or gazetted) as Order of..... with Swords.

Paul

It's the Abu Dhabi Good Service Medal instituted sometime in the late 60s. Awarded For 8 years' service in the Abu Dhabi Defence Force. Nice with original box.

Paul

Thank you Avsar. The fakes are getting scarier.

Paul

Dear Numismatist thank you so much for the useful information, The proclamation medal seems to give the oriental theory credence.

Paul

Some good talks there. The US section has a talk with cross over to the international seminar, Jeff floyd and Bob Gill, Foreign Medal awards to the US Military. Sounds interesting. That should keep me away from the bar for a while on Thursday

Paul

Last year Dix Noonan Webb had an uncased example which sold for £150. Based on that I would have thought a pristine cased example such as yours could sell between £200-250 (In my opinion cheap for such a rare and attractive medal, especially as the Olympic commemorative of the same year, which is no scarcer tends to make a lot more).

Hope this is of help

Paul

Some interesting pieces, first is a crown of 1889 which apart from the odd edge bruise appears to be in quite nice conditon, the second coin is not a halfcrown but a double-florin which was issued briefly between 1887 and 1890 but was not popular. The best coin is the Kruger crown which looks to be in nice condition. The white metal medal is for the Great Exhibition of 1851. The georgian coins are in fact shilling, sixpence and threepence.

All the best,

Paul

@ Paul Wood. Prins Hendrik received his Royal Humane Society Medal for his behaviour in 1907 when the Harwich ferry/boat "Berlin" stranded near Hoek van Holland. The ship broke in two and due to the Prince's coördination a lot of people could be rescued from the ship.

regards

Herman

Thanks for clearing that up. I assumed the once the Soviet Union had ceared to exist the medals were not awarded (you can't imagine the communist authorities issuing the Order of St George in 1919). Presumably these retrospective awards are quite rare, are there any details of figures awarded.

Paul

Anybody know what he got his Royal Humane Society Medal for.

Paul

The Royal Warrant holder's medal is basically given to those who provide goods and services to the Royal Family and Royal Household so for example if you buy a packet of biscuits and it has the Royal Coat of Arms and by appointment to her majesty the Queen etc etc, then the biscuit company are Royal Warrant Holders. I have seen Royal Warrant Holders Medal from various reigns from Victoria onwards. The rarest is the Edward VIII Royal Warrant Holders Medal of which a relatively small number were issued.

Paul

True Peter,

If Jack Ketch didn't get you then jail fever would. It wasn't until the mid 19th century when the "model" prisons such as Wandsworth were built, mainly because the Aussies decided they didn't want the dregs of our society anymore. Mayhew's rare book on the criminal system is a most interesting read, and gives plenty of information on the new prisons and gives a warts and all view of the criminal classes. Luckily he didn't have televison and new technology so he had the time to produce various great works, many of the charachters who would have been well known to Dickens.

Paul