paul wood

Uslng English Charles rather than carolvs, his granfather and great-grandfather used the name georgivs, bit odd as the rest of the legend is Latin.

P

Don't forget in 1977 the Royal Mint had a monopoly on UK official medal production, cost was not the overriding concern, but quality. By the Golden Jubilee, due to EU regulations, contracts could be submitted by various firms, and cost became an issue. I remember visiting the Central Chancery about 20 years ago to give my opinions  on the tendered designs for  a British Order, of which there were two British firms and one European company in the final, one British firm was up to standard, the other made a schoolboy error in the design, otherwise the quality was acceptable. The European version looked like something one would find in a Lucky Bag, obviously from the costing point of view the latter was as "cheap as chips", thankfully the  department awarding the contract chose the better, and most expensive, of the three, probably on the principle they were hoping to be awarded it on their retirement, so they didn't want a piece of crap, however costing is a factor that manufacturers have to take into account, rather than the best piece on design and artistic merit.

P

Certainly with medals issued to the armed forces that bear the monarchs effigy I suspect that his portrait will be replaced on  them ASAP as he is  C-in-C, a role he takes extremely seriously, as to civilian award such as the ISM that may take somewhat longer; based on his mother's precedent, her portrait was changed on Military awards slightly prior to the change of effigy on coins.

Paul

Simius

I agree. What I will say is that the mounting is recent, it is probable a remative found them loose in a drawer and had them attractively mounted, the named medal is clearly halal.

Paul

It appears that the date will be June 3 to mark the 70th Anniversary of his mother's coronation. Given the increase in the numbers given for each Jubilee (the awards for the 1977 Jubilee were positively miserly, my father was fortunate enough to receive one on his retirement after 50 years in the Civil service, much to the chagrin of many of his colleagues). The Platinum on the other hand was given out by the truck load. I hope that there is some selectivity in the award of Coronation medal so as to make it a valued and treasured award.

P

Princess Margaret's thoughts would probably have been make mine a treble.

P

No idea? Thank you all for looking, I will try and find a Chinese forum as I am now able to translate into Chinese carachters,

Many thanks,

Paul

No ideas? I will see if i can find aChinese forum, i am now able to translate into Chinese carachters, Many thanks for looking.

Paul

This has turned up with a number of Chinese and South Eastern Asian Orders and Decorations, I am afraid it has me stumped. Any thoughts as to its correct title, any infor gratefully received.

With best wishes,

Paul

This has turned up with various Chinese odds and ends, it appears to be from around the 1920s possibly a provincial official, Any thoughts most gratefully received.

All the best,

Paul

They will certainly issue a medal for the Coronation, whenever it takes place, which I suspect will be warded to the same people as the platinum Jubilee.

P

Not Arabic but Farsi, there lies the problem. I have many friends who can read arabic fluently but farsi-no.

P

I wonder if on coinage and medals whether he with use the title Carolus IIII D.G. REX F.D. or with it be anglicized. Mind you as a crusty old Jacobite he is Charles IV as far as I am concerned, Bonny Prince Charles as he is known in popular literature, Charles Edward Stuart, heir apparent of James III (the so called "warming pan baby"), became Charles III on his father's death following the unlawful usurpation of William Stadtholder of the Netherlands in 1688; however the royal lines converged at the treaty of Amiens when Henry IX (Cardinal Henry Benedict Stuart) renounced his claim and recognised George III.

Any other Jacobite forum members?

P

I think its quie old enamel has that thick look about it

P

Bob, I think you have confused Edward with Andrew. While Edward is as much use as a dead haddock on an umberella tip, he was not involved with Epsrein, I agree the ginger whinger and his appaling wife were extremely vexacious to HMQ.

P

I think the loss of her partner of 73 years was the beginning of the end. She went down hill rapidly after  his dearh.

P

From a phaleristic point of view of the Orders of British India have now ceased to exist, as she was the last living recipient of the Order of the Crown of India; and unless there is a 100+ year old St Paul's choir boy lstill living she was probably the last living recipient of the 1935 Jubilee and possibly the 1937 Coronation medal, certainly the last recipient of the George V and George VI royal  family jewelled decoration.

Paul

Re black Cowboy, Louis XIV was only 4 when he became king, EIIr was 25

Replacement suspensions are not a problem as at least 50% of UK Waterloos have some replacement or alteration to the suspension, all I can say is the naming is very irregular but not being a specialist in Hanoverian Waterloo medal naming I am not sure if they are always like this. Were it a British Waterloo I would suggest the naming had been corrected or otherwise mucked about with although of the period.

P

Find me a genuine chinese medal on e-bay and I will convert to Wahabism.

P

As The order of merit is the only order of the Italian Republic. Apart from this the italian manufactureres are only making Order of Malta and pseudo-masonic nitrogenous waste.

P

Don't bother to reply, I am sure it is a piece of modern nitrogenous waste which the Chines cottage industries are producing by the bucket load, unless anyone has a different opinion.

P

I would be interested if anyone has opinions as to authenticity of this piece it is WWII and many genuine regimental pieces can be quite awful, anyone has anny thoughts gratefuly received.

P

At the end of the day Nick, I am sure what you finally decide will be diligently considered, I, for one, am prepared to help in anyway required, possibly because, scarily enough, I have been a member of the forum for over 16 years, I have a fair deal of affection for it.

Paul

Sorry 15 years my maths has let me down

1 Order of the Medjidjie, 5th class breast badge, Turkish made

2 Liyakat Madalyasi (Merit medal), established 1890

Both relatively common, value about £150-200 the pair.

ATB

Paul

Balkan, I  agree with you about any form of compulsory subscriptions, I am anti  ads, as I feel that advertisers have taken over control of the internet and what you see is often what they want you to see. I am afraid advertisers want more than money, they want influence.

However voluntary donations I think is the answer, a suggested figure (say $10) would not break anybody's bank (unless they are begging for spare change outside Tesco) and I am sure many would hopefully and  happily give a somewhat larger amount.

P