Elmar Lang

Hello,

I am glad if in this case I could have been of help in the identification of this medal.

Many years ago, I've had the opportunity to meet Dr. Pizzi: he was a fan of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and a faithful client of Messrs. Rothe & Neffe shop in Vienna.

His collection, counted a tasteful choice of interesting, original pieces.

All the best,

Enzo

Hello,

in my opinion, the eagle holding hammer and sickle in its talons, is the coat-of-arms of 1919 Deutschösterreich, or the post-WW2 2nd Republic.

Not being visible the "broken chain" to the eagle's talons, it's most probable that the badge dates back to the "Republik Deutschösterreich"

Best wishes,

E.L.

Hello,

this finely made medal is italian, "instituted" at the end of the 70s and "awarded" at least until 1998.

The man, whose bust is visible on the obverse, with the inscription "GIO. CARLO II", is Dr.Ing. Giancarlo Pizzi from Milan, whose ancestry goes back to the Counts of Porcia in the Friuli region of North-East Italy.

For unknown reasons, but surely with some sense of humour, he created this "Merit Medal", he used to award on the occasion of his birthday (or other occasions), to friends and other persons, whose fidelity and conspicuous merits towards him, deserved a visible sign of benevolence and gratitude.

The motto on the reverse, "AI NOSTRI FEDELI E MERITEVOLI SUDDITI", means "To our faithful and meritorious subjects".

The medal, struck in silver at the Johnson firm of Milan, was work of one of its own artists-medallists and it's really well executed; the ribbon, was provided by Messrs. Rothe & Neffe, Vienna.

It exists with two types of case: the early one, is of  typical "austrian" form, with rounded, forward side; the later one, is rectangular; all with various versions of the Austrian, or Lombardo-Venetian coat-of-arms, embossed in gold to the lid.

It came with an award document, in a dark blue cardboard folder; the earliest, printed on simili-parchment paper, the later ones, in a laser-copy version, all with the recipient's name made with "Letraset" transfer letters. The documents, bear the signature "Gio. Carlo", autographed in red ink.

It was not awarded in a great number, since one of the last documents known, from 1998, bears the number "N° 58".

I think that Dr. Pizzi passed away (if not, I apologize!), because some years ago a certain number of such medals appeared on the italian market, all within a short period of time.

Best wishes,

Enzo (E.L.)

Hello,

the badge refers to the foundation of one of the many "Shooters' Companies" (Schützenkompanien"), active in the Alto Adige autonomous province (also known as "Südtirol" from the german-speaking population).

Here, https://schuetzen.com/veranstaltung/40-jahre-wiedergruendungsfest-der-schuetzenkompanie-sepp-innerkofler-sexten/ you can find a few data about the celebrations for the 40 years of that company, to be held in the next July.

As you can see from the link above, they mean to celebrate the "re-foundation" of their company, named to Sepp Innerkofler… that actually never existed prior to 1918; a curious story.

The Tyrolean "Schützenkompanien" are now paramilitary organizations recalling the traditions of the Tyrolean Standschützenkompanien existing until some years after 1918 in the territories then passed to Italy after its victory over Austria-Hungary in WW1. In the territories now part of the Italian Republic, they keep a strongly nationalist, anti-italian position, assuming that no single Italian-speaking citizen, lived in South Tyrol, pr ior the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy.

Personally, I can accept that local associations could keep alive, the old traditions of their own region/territory. I less understand the expansion, in an anti-Italian action, of such "Schutzenkompanien", all over the Trentino province, that is the Italian-speaking province, forming the autonomous region of Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol; such companies, also proclaiming themselves as "re-founded", never ever existed in the Trentino area, also during the austrian monarchy, except some "Compagnie di Tiratori del Casino di Tiro di…(name of the town-city)".

I apologize for this long introduction...

Your badge was made by Granero, a very active and qualified maker of badges, orders and decorations: the firm, closed in 2013 and all their materials have been destroyed or lost; the machinery, sold or demolished. Mrs. Granero, the last owner of the firm, was a kind lady with a deep knowledge of phaleristic and technical jewellery, now enjoying her retirement after a life in a firm, she inherited from at least three generations, after its in Turin, back in the late 19th Century.

Best wishes,

Enzo (E.L.)

Hello,

This piece is a modern reproduction, made "in the style" of the copies made by Rothe & Neffe until the late 70s of 20th Century.

Best wishes,

Enzo (E.L.)

the mark is "HUW", for Heinrich Ulbrichs Witwe; a mark actually not often encountered.

All the best,

Enzo (E.L.)

You're welcome!

Hello Igor,

the maker could well be a Romanian jeweller, unless there would also be present austrian silver marks.

All the best,

Enzo

What decoration was struck with this mark?

Thank you,

Enzo (E.L.)

You're welcome, Paul.

I regret for not being able to give more info...

All the best,

Enzo

Dear Paul,

I've had this decoration in the past, from a vast number of pre-revolutionary China's awards, collected in the Shenzhen region, bought by me, back in 1992.

Pity, no one was with any description.

I can only add that the piece once in my property, had a ring suspension and ribbon with the colours of China's republic… and a different number, struck to the reverse.

In the picture provided, the decoration's reverse allows to presume that a suspension has been removed.

All the best,

Enzo (E.L.)

On 04/07/2014 at 15:39, Djedj said:

Hi gents,

sorry I cannot get anything more detailed for the Cross ; but a badge looks possible indeed.

 

 

Thomas,

Thanks for this photo - very nice !

 

And... introducing another old Vet'..

Photo re-cut to fit in a 1860s album ; no photographer's détails whatsoever.

I love the colouring !

 

Salutations,

Jérôme

Hello Glenn,

my statement was about this picture...

All the best,

Enzo (E.L.)

Hello,

I would like to revive this discussion, because the posted replica VC looks almost identical to the two pieces sold at Spink's on November 27th-28th 2019 sale, lots 580-581.

The two pieces show a better finish though and both are named to two Irish men Danaher and Doogan resp., during the 1st Boer War.

Good pictures of the two pieces can be seen on Spink's webpage.

Best wishes,

E.L.

A nice group of awards.

It's a pity that the award document to the Military Order of Savoy is not present.

Not bad indeed, if considered as a toy.

Hello, 

I don't see anything suspicious with this set. 

Best wishes, 

E. L. 

Hello,

any maker's mark to the reverse of the two stars?

By the way, differences in the text on the white enameled outer circlet do occur.

Looking at the quality/finish of the two stars, I'd dare to say that the first one is elder than the second piece shown.

All the best,

Enzo (E.L.)

...and the second, "JZ" mark, is that of the well-known maker Josef Zimbler.

Most of the Wiederholungsspangen were made by Zimbler, but of white metal. Finding a silver one, is definitely a "plus".

Hello,

being more into the Austro-Hungarian faleristic (and its room here), I've missed this thread.

The Gunzenhausen show is a tradition I can't miss. Nice that the renovated Stadthalle is back into use and that the new management continues to keep this show alive.

I've had my table as usual on the stage, met many friends and many collectors. It was nice to also meet Sascha and see his usually very fine offering of orders and decorations.

An "adventure" with happy ending, gave some suspense to my participation.

The good thing of Gunzenhausen is that it takes place in a pleasant town: its Church, with fine works of art and its wonderful organ, is well worth a visit.

Ad maiora!

Enzo (E.L.)

Hello,

the decoration illustrated in the pictures is an insignia of one of the many spurious "orders" pretending to be a Maltese Order.

There is one Order of St. John of Jerusalem (a.k.a. Order of Malta) only, although divided in many priorates.

Best wishes,

Enzo

On 28/09/2019 at 15:51, paul wood said:

Less disinformation in those days.

Being in the numismatic trade (ie  coins and medals). People ask advice as to the value of certain items. After giving my considered opinion I often get the reply "but on the internet it says....." i then reply "do you believe every word you read in the Bible" to which the reply is "Of course not: do you think I am stupid?". My reply is "yes If you believe everything you read on-line". I think there is more likely to be accurate information in the Bible than a lot of the rubbish printed on-line. These days it seems that if the internet says it is true it has to be. We are more gullible today than the most supersticious of medieval  peasants. My few pennies worth of thoughts.

Paul

Words that should be carved on white marble, then filled with 24kt. gold...

It's nice to see again the Golden medal belonged to Gen. Emil Vojnovic v. Belobreska, with the French Medal of the "Societé Archeologique" (also the latter, made by Rothe).

Very interesting, the medal posted by Paul. A mistery to me too...

King Victor Emanuel II, instituted a medal to the combatants in the "Wars for Italy's Independence and Unity" ("Guerre per l'Indipendenza e l'Unità d'Italia"), that has to be considered a "Campaign Medal" where each campaign is indicated with bars; the "Unità d'Italia 1848-1870" (and, later, "(…) 1848-1918" have to be considered as a "Commemorative Medals".

all the best,

Enzo

Hello, Paul,

the silver medal with the image of King Humbert I is the "Unità d'Italia 1848-1870" commemorative medal, awarded to anyone who participated to the wars of Independence in the Sardinian/Italian army or in Garibaldi's volunteer corps.

Later, King Victor Emanuel III instituted a similar medal, in bronze, but with his portrait: the "Unità d'Italia 1848-1918" medal, awarded also to those participating to WW1 considered as the last war for Italy's unity.

Enzo

These medals, probably given to a Church as an "ex-voto", mean that our man fought in the 1859, 1860-61 and 1866 campaigns; one, is the French medal for the 1859 campaign in Italy (awarded to Sardinian/Italian troops too); more, we see the "Unità d'Italia -1848-1870" medal in silver, with the image of King Humbert I and one of the many commemorative crosses for the Wars of Independence, awarded by some veterans' committee, curiously mounted to the ribbon of the Military Order of Savoy.

Agostino Focaccio, in 1866 also received a Silver "Al Valore Militare" medal for the Southern Italian campaign of 1861-61 for his gallantry in front of the enemy, as a gunner in the 3rd Artillery Regiment (siege of Capua and Gaeta). This medal is not present in the frame though...

Best wishes,

Enzo (E.L.)