wlodzimierz

Usually you find Awarding Documents which were designed for particular Decoration, very often using in all classes the same background image (very often order of the 1st class). I will post some later.

But these, already posted, documents especially Awarding Document are very rare. I haven't seen such document before, there are two importing and interesting points:

1. this is approval of certification issued before.

2. this is first Awarding Document for Order for Bravery I ever seen.

w.

Look at this very interesting awarding document. You will find out that it was generic awarding document designed for legalization of all type of bestowed awards. Related decree #217 was issued on 2.2.1947 but the document itself on 30.03.1964.

Gents,

as we know there are two documents which were given to awarders:

- Certificate

- Awarding Document

Early Certificates had a sentence 'This Certification is issued as temporary decree' since granting of awards had to be approved by correct authority (President, Parliament, Presidency).

This Certificates for Order for Bravery #46226 was issued by Personal Department of Command of Air Force on November 20, 1946. You can see the sentence I mention above 'Ovo uverenje izdaje se kao privremeni dekret'.

The question is how this Certificates was approved?

In next posting we will find an answer.

next page

this is original with correct ribbon.

Gents,

on sale (Item number:290328364385) is one Order for Military Merits 1st cl., 1st model.

In my opinion this is a new type of bad done fakes done by casting with wrong ribbon . The ribbon comes from Medal for People's Merits.

Look at these images, lack of details and at the surface of order which is typical for casted fakes.

Looking good

Thank you Zhukov I was my desire to have not only book with correct information, good graphical design but a book which could be easily used by non-collector. It should be very clear and easy to find a decoration without knowledge about awards or YU awards.

Of course I will put a sort of 'navigation' system, I'm still considering how to solve this issue.

w.

For what I?ve seen this book is going to be an extraordinary and amazing piece of work.

Thanks for doing it possible.

Best regards,

Dolfek.

Thank you Dolfek I think that high quality book with higher price still will have better response on the market as a cheaper book with low quality (text, images). There is a chance to set with this book a milestone in better understanding of YU Communists Awards and thus to increase interests to collect these awards.

As I started to collect YU Communist awards a couple of years ago, I noticed that there is almost no literature on the market which covers YU Communists awards. I started this book as a sort of help for me, this book started to grown be more detailed and more precised. Meanwhile I have app. 1100 pages, but I think that it is much to much. I will try to make it more compact and smaller let's say 700 pages.

I spent already years of work on this book, but it was interesting to discover 'other worlds' in terms of faleristic and learn about other country. Meanwhile, some fundamental assumptions concerning early production of YU orders must be re-write, since we discovered new facts. I must say it was a great surprise.

But there is a danger, if you try to make something perfect - you will never end. But despite this danger I will try to finish it this year.

best regards

w.

Excellent work Waldemar, I cant wait the book to come out(is it soon? )

Thank you Luka

There is still much to do, as you maybe know this rule: '80% of work in 20% of time but last 20% of work costs 80% of time'.

There are mostly last checks, each image must be described with information about source. And there are 2000 - 3000 images.

I think that we will print it next year.

lp w.

Hi Gents,

I spotted lately one document for this badge, it must be a some sort of certificate.

and, at the moment last one:

and other tubes

other tubes

and next two pages:

next two pages:

Gents,

there are different types of tubes which were used in awarding process. There are some which are not showed yet, they will be included in later release.

next one

reverse

Two pins with 'Galeb' made from different metal.

Gents,

The results of Hans Dieter Rauch Auction are online http://www.sixbid.com/nav.php?p=pr&sid=143

lg. w.

Hi Gents...

I have one incomplete grouping.

Fortunately, I have certificates or booklets with serial number, but I would love to find that awards.

Is there any homepage like http://www.soviet-screwbacks.com for Yugoslav awards?

I'm looking for:

- Order for Bravery: 46.226

- Order for National Merit: 30.607

- Partisanska Spomenica: 178

- Partisanska Spomenica: 2.505

On the other side, how to find out if there was a certificate or booklet for particular award?

How could we accomplish this task?

lg. w

Great Anatoly

now we have all 4 medals given to Yugoslav participants of October Revolution 1917.

These are beautiful medals, all are rare but some of them are very rare.

A medal is directly connected to very important event in the history.

Thank you Anatoly.

lg. w.

Thank you Yildirim

it is important to know correct names, since we will try to get access to the archive of AUROMETAL - Subotica and check if this factory existed at that time, what hallmark they have used and of course if they produced orders for YU Government.

Your input is very valuable and welcomed, thank you

lg. w.

I asked myself why there is hallmark 'HJ' instead of 'NI' first letters of Njilas Ivan, I asked my friend in Belgrade if he knows this name or name of his workshop. He wrote me an answer which explains many open points:

" 'HJ' could certainly by Cyrillic for 'NI', what could be perfectly connected with the Njilas' of Subotica hallmark. Namely, proper name, in Hungarian, would be NYILAS ISTVAN (NI), translated into Serbian to NJILAS JOVAN (NJ, in Cyrillic HJ), where "Jovan" is Serbian form of the Croatian name "Ivan", John in English.

Also please note that in Hungarian language last names are written as first names, what is also often practised in Serbia and Croatia, especially in those parts which used te be under Austria-Hungary. (So in Hungarian ALL the names are spelled opposit way. Like Brando Marlon, Bush George, Broz Josp etc).

Another note: Subotica, or Szabadka in Hungarian language, is in Vojvodina, on the Serbian side of the Hungarian and former Yugoslav border. It is a multi ethnic town where not only Serbs and Hungarians live, but also a large group of Croatian community, called 'Bunjevci'. That is why Istvan's name was translated once into Jovan (on the hallmark), another time into Ivan (in that register).

There still live many families with that last name in Subotica.

No, that workshop could not possibly be merged into IKOM, but I'm 99% sure it was nationalized and renamed to AUROMETAL - Subotica. That large and famous jewlery and precious metals factory, which still exists, have been producing many MILITARY BADGES and other military insignia. So it is very logical that at some early stage of their activities they also produced that order."

We are next step closer to discover unwritten history of the production of awards in YU.

Thank you Sasa for your input.

lp. w

Great Luka,

We have already 3 of 4 medal.s We still missing Macedonian types,but I must admit that this medal is extremely rare.

Thank you

lp. w.