francisco v.

Hello,

The ring posted in #2 its spanish made

Regards

Fran

As well, what do you think about these two rings.

Hi Jacques,

Not spanish wings at all but Spanish Foreign Legion Wings. Think the could be also worn in caps...

Regards

Fran

Hi ,

I got this today . Is it a miniature of the spanish pilot badge destinated to be worn on the civil dress ?

the comet pin is the tradition badge of the 1./K88

jacques

Hello,

I'd say the SKiG have its swasticas eagles denazified by broking off one brace.

Werner Kl?mper was born April 19th,1911 in Herne. Arrived to Cadiz November 27th,1936 aboard Stassfurt steamer to start organizing the AS/88 jointly with Dieter Leicht (the first AS/88 KIA)

In Spanish war, captured the ship Nuria (4600Tm) from air, and sunk Delfina (5100Tm).

In WWII was in Stab/KG30; Staffelkapit?n 3./906; Geschwaderkommodore KG26 since march 1943 to Nov.1944.

KC holder 1st Oct.1943

Best regards

Try this and tell us:

http://www.photosol.com/pec12.htm

Is there anything I can try to do to remove the ink?

It is genuine.

Hi Ant,

What's the name in the docs?

Regards

Fran

Several jeweler's or makers of great fame have existed, of those that unfortunately some hardly survives: CELADA, VILLANUEVA AND LAISECA, MEDINA, CEJALVO, SAZ, EGA?A that have usually "signed" their pieces. The rest is almost impossible to determine the maker

Others of my interests are the worlwide ribbons, like form of identifying the ODM, and the recompenses for Peacekeeping Operations

Thank you

Greetings to all

Hello Antonio,

You're very welcome to this forum.

Regarding to the makers, I have a Navarra Army Corps Badge with a marking which seems to be 'cLo'. At the beguinning I though it could be an abreviaton of

CEJALVO but this maker still active in present day, does not recognize it as yours.

Do you have seen before this marking?

Gracias

Francisco

Hello Fran?ois, the sad story happened later.

The two boxer dogs of Major Fuhrhop, called "Chica" and "Ciro" also died but WWII although

this time himself perished too.

On 29th February 1944, in anticipation of a visit from RAF Bomber Command that night,

it was decided to move the Ju188's of 1/KG6 which he commanded from their Chievres base, to Dreux airfield,

operating from there against England that night. At 13.00hrs two Ju188's took off

destination Dreux carrying several groundcrew technicians and his two Boxer dogs.

Cloud base was low and this combined with rain led the crews to assume that there would be no

RAF activity en route.

An hour or so later the Adjutant of 1/KG 6 became concerned at the absence of a

landing report from Dreux, and was unable to make contact with Dreux Control.

Later that afternoon the Adjutant was informed that both 188's had been shot down near

the town of Sebancourt.

Next morning the remains of the two Ju188's were found to be scattered over a wide area .

The bodies of the 13 crew members had been moved to a nearby monastery and laid out

on parachutes.

The watches of all 13 deceased had stopped at 13.15hrs, just 15 minutes after take off.

The assumption that weather conditions precluded RAF fighter activity proved to he a

costly mistake, stooging along at 1,000ft. relaxed; they panicked when cannon fire from 609's

Typhoons hit them.

Aircraft and crew details;

Ju188 coded 3E +AB of Stab 1/KG 6 crashed at Sebancourt 18kms NE of St. Quentin.

Major Helmut Fuhrhop, pilot, Oberfeldwebel Albert Schubert, observer,

Oberfeldwebel Alfons Eichschmidt, radio operator, Stabsfeldwebel Walter Rehfeldt,

flight engineer, Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Schachtschnabel, air gunner

and Feldwebel Arnold Buettner, mechanic.

After the war, Major Fuhrhop who was awarded the RK on 22-Nov-1943 were reburied at the german cementery of Lommel in Belgium,

Block 59 grave 448

Regards

Francisco

This one is a personal emblem and is attached to a "sad" story.

"It belongs to 1./K88, aircraft 25-15 (He 111, know as "Pedro 15"), flown by Lt Fuhrhop. His (and his crew) mascot was a black Scotch terrier, who was not as so lucky as the crew, as he was killed over Sagunto on 13 June 1938."

I'd say he's Karl-Heinz Krahl who was Gruppenkommandeur I./JG2 'Richthofen' as shown in his cufftitle.

Jacques, could you please show a detail of the emblem besides the pilot badge? I will try to identify it

Regards

Fran

Hello Joe,

Lt.Walter Fl?ming, when in Spain, was pilot in the 2nd Staffel of K/88.

Do you have additional info on the crash or about the man?

Regards

Fran

Hi,

I am looking for any information on this S/NCO or Officer, I am told that he was awarded the Spanish Cross in Gold, he was killed when he crashed on the island of Hoy, on 17.10.1939.

Hello Jacques,

Many thanks for your input. Yes I took good (big) images but for posting I had to downsize to 50Kb.

I will send them to your private mail.

Regards

Francisco

It looks good to me too, but can you get better pics?

jacques

Backside

This looks good to me . It is unmarked but are there any feature of any known maker?

Thank you

Wow, thanks Jacques. Was not high priced, so too much nice to be truth...

Baaaad

Keep away Fran

Back side. The marking is CEJ 800

Thank you

Good or bad?? Don't like the patina, looks like a sort of barnish

Regards

Hi Scott,

I did not know whether you purchased the wings or not and feared being a bit rude with my reply but that was my first impulse. I am glad if I helped.

For how much are these being sold?

Muchas gracias Francisco. It's not mine, but it was available for sale; I will leave it alone.

Cheers.

Scott

An absolute piece of crap of the type pictured in Huff's book. Pure fantasy St.John's eagle, awful crude crown. incorrect pin arrangement; a restrike of the worst.

I won't touch that even with a barge pole.

Sorry for the dissapointment.

I'd like to get some opinions on these wings. Do they exhibit manufacturing characteristics of SCW-period wings? They're 90mm x 40mm.

Thanks!

Scott

(edit: With the star in the center, I believe they're pilot-observer wings)

Hello Gordon,

Is there in any of these catalog, spanish pilot's wings?

Cheers

Ink stamp of the prisioner's camp

OK, the name of the recipient of this 100% original period piece may help.

Leutnant (Ing) Hugo Seggermann, Leitender Ingenieur on U-862

Hello,

I was browsing old messages and found fascinating this. Never had heard of japanese made DK.

I also have something from U-862

a personal belonging of Korvettenkapit?n Timm

Regards

Francisco

I think Meybauer never die struck SK withow swords. Cut off them on request.

Two examples I saw (both with coat of arms marking) were of this way

Regards

Fran

Welcome Mike to the 'fraternity' but it is not such; just a group of friend sharing a hobby.

Hope you enjoy this forum

Best

Fran

Fran,

did you purchase those documents? If so can we see them please?

Hello Sal,

I have not the docs so the scans I can post are of the size in the dealer's web shop

Francisco, that is very interesting as well as sad. Where did you find that info? Have you heard anything on the story that I found about one of the crew? This sounds like a very interesting story forming up. Do you know the plane numbers etc. that Sobotka was flying that day?

Best, Sal

Sal, some time ago a bunch of papers with official correspondence addressed to Edith and Camillo Sobotka, his fathers, as put on sale and sold.

Regarding to the plane flown by Sobotka there are not published info although my researchings points out to the Do-17 number 27-6

Regards

Fran