Richard Gordon

Hey guys,

I'd like to share the newest piece of my collection. Something that I have been looking for quite a while and waiting for the right one I have passed over several until this one came along.

I understand this is the light model, approx 51g, 64x64 diameter at the points.

Comments/critique always welcome!

Rich

I think there are many variations. My example has a disc.

Rich

Micha

I think your crosses number 1 & 2 are the same frame and core. There are parts of the frame that match up but the 3rd one doesn't have these. Maybe number 3 is earlier?

See the red circles and compare the same areas in crosses 1 & 2.

Rich

Micha

Thanks for the reply. Comparing I don't think it is a '15'. I now think it might be a '44'. Do you have one of those to compare?

Rich

I am ever hopefull that someone here will be able to identify the maker of this EK2.

Any ideas?

Rich

David

Really like the DKiG! As it shows the same components as the war-time model I would assume it is very early. Do you know if this is the case?

Rich

I think one type was made by Deschler?

At a quick glance you would think these came from the same die. The point about the missing leaf-tip made me examine the 2 examples in more detail and I see all sorts of small differences now.

If these are Juncker, and going by their flight badges, more than one u-boat badge type would not be a surprise. For the pilot badge alone they had at least 3 types.

Rich

Very nice Dave and with the doc too!! Good luck in the research and that you find the DKiG list. (If I see one I'll let you know.).

J T-W, can you mail me details of the Bundesarchiv to as I'd like to research my Ehrenpokal further too.

Cheers

Rich

Congratulations Micha! An excellent choice!!

Rich

I don't know of any easily accesible lists that holds date/place of death of RKT. You can search in http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/ on an individual basis but other than that???

Last year I picked up my one and only RK, the story is as follows, It was taken in 1944 in the Dunkirk area by French Commando's, the recipient was wounded but later died, The French Commando that took it died and it was found during his widows house clearance, is this researchable?

It's possible but how likely is it to come up with the recipient? You'd have to look at all RKT who died in that area and even then you could be left with more than one possibility. I don't know how easy it would be to collate information for that search.

Worth a try though. How do you plan to proceed?

Rich

It's crazy. Yes understandable that the swastika get obliterated but the rest...?

Sorry I still can't see cleary to be of any help. Have you tried searching on the words in google to see if it takes you anywhere?

Rich

Eric,

hehehehehe............... that almost sounds like a dare!

Mark

Uh-oh...

Very nice J T-W!!

I used to own one myself pretty much the same. Like a fool I sold it...

Rich

Unbelieveable:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ORIGINALES-LUFTWAFFE-AB...1QQcmdZViewItem

Hello,

Nice looking EK1. Unfortunately the photos are not clear enough to see the inscriptions you describe.

rich

Beautiful RK Richard,

I looked throught the Wochenschau of May 1944 and came across one small scene of a named Nashorn in action at Monte Cassino. Here is a still:

Thanks for the pic. I have no idea of details on Kreuzberg Nashorn unfortunately.

Maybe someone can help on that... if he was Gesch?tzf?hrer 2./ what possible unit marking would his Nashorn have had?

I got these two photos from ebay which shows Nashorns from this unit in Italy.

Rich

Very interesting! I haven't seen this type before.

Rich

Ehrenliste

RK Cases

Steinhauer u. L?ck

Micro 800, type 'A'. Awarded September 1944.

Juncker 800 L/12

No doubt that he will receive at least a life peerage. Of course he'll accept it, after all labour are the new conservatives and they enjoy all the power and trappings that go with it.