Richard Gordon

Thanks Gordon. It's a bummer the data is missing for that period. It's from a letter dated May 1944 so it was in use.

Cheers

Rich

Would any pf you kind folk know what unit was using this f. p. nr. in 1944?

28795

Thanks

Rich

Hello.

I believe it is original in bronze class (definitely not gold). I don't follow these that closely but I do not believe this one is a Deumer. Maybe S&L?

Rich

Scott

Yes and no. It's in a photo-box and taken during the day near a window but there is also a small lamp to the right to give a little bit extra.

Rich

Barry/J T-W/Jan Arne

Thanks for the comments. I don't know why but the pic on my PC is much sharper. It must get compressed when uploaded or something.

My camera is old-hat these days, a 4Mp Olympus. I don't think the age of the camera matters that much, more the flexibility it allows and the users ability/understanding of how to use it. To be honest, it's often luck on my part. I have an idea of how to get what I want but it often involves many attempts at lighting and settings!

Rich

Knocked up a few photos today, experimenting with depth of field and was pleased with this one.

Let's see if I can keep it consistent!

Karsten

Yes, the one on the left is the 'Deumer parts' Deumer, while the one on the right is the 'Juncker parts' Deumer!

Rich

Does anyone know the maker of this one?

Rich

Second new piece. Beautifully convex shape. I believe the core is blued and not painted.

It seems 'FR' has at least 2 cores? Here's my other. The dates are very different.

Rich

Normal reverse. No other markings but sure looks like a silver frame.

First up, marked FR (not Fr)...

Here's a Deumer with Juncker parts.

If we accept that the hinge barrel was soldered to the wreath then the centre portion ground away to accommodate the pin-barrel, we should see clean lines to the edges of the grind and no solder over the marks made by the grinding tool. A close-up of the pic in post # 8 shows there to be an overlay of solder to the grind marks, and overlapping solder along the edges. So, extra solder applied at the time of construction?.or a later repair?

For me? it could go either way.

Yes, #8 does seem to show surplus solder in the ground out section to the right. Could have been the original weld was considered too weak or perhaps cracked and had to be resoldered.

Agreed, could go either way. Here's the catch on my Deumer FJ. Some excess solder but definitely not a repair.

Guys

Many thanks for the detail and the total. I just wasn't sure of the official stance or the if the total awarded added up to the number of volunteers.

Rich

Both stunners! Really nice to see an all-Deumer piece with Deumer case.

Rich

As I don't see any solder on the ground out section in the middle of the hinge I assume just a sloppy soldering job but would like to see a close-up just to be sure.

All my Deumers have been neat in those areas.

Rich

Now you mention it, that does ring a bell. I think the KIA was awarded the SCiG and the Next of Kin cross also awarded.

But my main question was did every member of the Legion Condor receive the Spanish Cross?

Rich

I'm sure this has been asked and explained before but if it was I didn't see it or I have forgotten so I'll ask again anyway...

Did every German volunteer in Legion Condor (who survived) receive some grade of the Spanish Cross?

Rich

luckily i used about 20 or so rykers

Eric

The term 'hoarding' springs to mind! That's serious display of Imperial EK1's!

Rich

J

That's a cracker! I remember it from the sales thread... I think there were a lot after this one and I can see why ! Congrats!!

Rich

I can't find fault with it.

Apart from my first findings, I can't see anything wrong either

Just measured mine and the dimensions are the same.

The badge on the right raises only 2 conserns for me:

1) the finish; Both on the eagle and on the wreath

2) the pin catch; while it follows the correct style, it is not quite right.

I only have 1 GWL flight badge (pilot) but the one on the left matches it in every way, including the catch. I would only expect to see variation in the rivets and maker-mark (i.e. the intensity of the break in the ring)

If I were looking for a GWL pilot, the one on the right would not be for me. I would only consider, in this case, the text-book one. These are only my opinions.

To further analyse the example on the right, you should also check dimensions in case it's a good casting using an original as a mold. It could well be an original that may have been corroded, then cleaned up and re-finished.

Rich

Darrell

That's a really nice one! Thought you had moved on the KM awards?!

Rich