bab

Hello,

Prosper, nice to hear from you again!! great documents, and to see some great documents!!!

regards from Brest

Herl

Hi,

i don(t know if they were engraved or stamped, it was made in the factory...but good size number...i think it's good...

Herl

Hi,

Simon check the size of the number on the augis one, if it's more than 2,5 mm...

Herl

Simon,

your wings :

53653 Drago Olivier metra variant 1

77907 Drago Olivier metra variant 2

78826 " " " " "

84085 " " " " "

Herl

A. AUGIS LYON / 28 Mte St Bartholomew

back on smooth and grenu aluminium from 1942 to 1952

A. AUGIS / 28 Mte St Bartholomew / LYON embossed on smooth cartridge

On grenu back from 1946 to 1960

A. AUGIS / 28 Mte St Bartholomew / LYON relief without cartridge

On grenu back from 1952 to 1970

Hi,

all these list are to try to put a date on NORMAL insignia, wings doesn't use same rules!! All the marking that you can find on Indochina era wings are on the list i put before

I forgot another thing :jump school had number awarded before,so, my list is not "without errors" you can find some variant with lower or higher numbers that i put in the list

But i forgot Augis marking:

"INSIGNES ARTISTIQUES" "A. AUGIS" "28 M?e St BARTHELEMY" "LYON"

so, your Augis wings are the perfect example of good Indochina era!! (another thing to know, number were engraved at the factory so number on Augis wings ARE ALWAYS 2,5mm high, if not it's not period made)

Bouillot example

drago B?ranger variant 4

Hope it's "clear"

herl

Hi,

nice to come back on this very good forum...

i will try to help you about these wings...During Indochina period 5 jump school (2 in France, one in Algeria, two in indochina)

-There is 5 model of makers for wings for Indochina period (with some variant in some makers) some maker were only given to some jump school ...

-1? MOURGEON first maker of the wings (numbers around 3000 and under)

-2? DRAGO BERANGER

-Variant 1 : "DRAGO 25,R. BERANGER- PARIS III" "DEPOSE" (around 3000 to 5000)

-Variant 2 : "LES EDITIONS MILITAIRES" "DRAGO" "25 Rue BERANGER" "PARIS " "DEPOSE" (around 5000 to 10000)

-Variant 3 : same as number 2 except "EDITIONS MILITAIRES" and not "LES EDITIONS MILITAIRES"(around 10000 11000)

-Variant 4 : "DRAGO" "25 R. BERANGER" "DEPOSE" ( around 10000 to 30000)

-Variant 5 : "LES EDITION MILITAIRES" "DRAGO" "25 RUE BERANGER" "PARIS"( most common wings, numbers around 30000)

-3?BOUILLOT (only 3000 made) (numbers around 22000 to 28000) 1948 era

-4? AUGIS (numbers around 30000 to 55000)

-5? DRAGO OLIVIER METRA

-Variant 1 : " INSIGNES MILITAIRES" "DRAGO" "43,R.OLIVIER METRA" "PARIS 20?" (around 55000 to 75000)

-Variant 2 : "LES INSIGNES MILITAIRES" "DRAGO" "43, R. OLIVIER METRA" "PARIS" "REPRODUCTION" "INTERDITE" (around 75000 to 80000)

hope it helps

herl?

Hello,

great news for foreign members, a french forum for insignia and medals is now open for you...if you need help for french insignia and medals...here is the link!!

http://zitocland.forumpro.fr/

bab

Hi,

The number MAY be for a guy of 5? BCCP, but it is not 100% sure, it could also be for a 3 GCCP soldier.

Some of my friend try to list al the number they could find with history behind, they made a list wich shows some numbers match with some regiment..see pic :

about 5 BCCp it was in indochina from june 48 to july 50 and from august 51 to august 53 see pic ..

Herl

Hello,

Is this the cannon?

http://arglist.com/photos/brest.html

thanks,

barry

Hello,

no this is not these...Cannons i spoke about are in north of Brest in old navy barracks. They are iron, dated 1812, some numbers on, with coat of arms and crown, in quite a good shape..;i'm trying to find history of these 2 cannons, and i hope, maybe with numbers finding the ship they were on...

I'm also looking on French archiv if there is something about..thanks

Herl

Hi,

just a question, we have here in Brest two British navy guns, dated 1812, probably taken from a ship... Do you know if it's possible to know something about ? (the ship they are coming from...)

thanks

Herl

Hi all,

here are some few soldbuch of FJ soldier killed in Brest or who fight during this battle...their story will be in my book...if you have such document, and if you want to send me some copy for my book, feel free to PM me...

Herl?

Hi,

a nice video about Leclerc...enjoy..

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=842_1172870804

bab

Hi

here is one from a grouping of a man who was in FJR2

bab

Now...

Herl

enjoy

Then...

Herl

what is the best tank in the world at this moment?

Well difficult to know wich one is the best...no war to see wich one is the best...

Hi,

Yes i'm French, yes the Leclerc is French, and i know what you will say...

The sign is 1993, the Leclerc wasn't on duty on 1993...it was only tested... from the first in duty in 1998 and now it is the 7 th generation.Leclerc in Kosovo in 99 and 2000 were first and second generation.

Actually the Leclerc is the ONLY battle tank able to fire on move at 60 km/h with more than 98% of succes on target...

Leopard, Challenger (and they are also good tank)... are able to fire on move but at very low speed ...many other point to discuss...

Herl

Of course, sorry, I forgot about Brest!!!

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Great thread!

here is Brest base in september 44

Surviving "French" U-Boat Bunkers can be seen in Bordeaux, St. Nazaire, La Pallice and Lorient. There is also a surviving bunker at Trondheim which was still used by Norwegian subs after the war. Only Valentin still survives reasonably intact in Germany. Plenty of ruins of others to be seen though.

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Hello,

there is also Brest U-base, still use by French navy...

Herl