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      Sotheby's Cancels Auction of Russian Orders

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

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      I guess the guy who put them up for auction was icredibley stupid :speechless: and thought no one would notice or he simply had no idea they were stolen. Glad to see that the Russian Government was able to stop the auction and hopefully get them back to their rightful owners.

      They showed all the very top end medals at southbys with a Red Banner Screwback 3 as the minnow in the assortment.

      Chris

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      Sotheby's Cancels Auction of Russian Orders

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by Chris S

      Chris clarify please ..... where those orders on auction some or all of Nikita Kruschev's ODM's??? :speechless1:

      Cough cough splutter!!!!!

      Jim

      Just been talking to my Russian other half she has clarified that they showed Nikita K Grandson who had his Grandfathers medals stolen from him and went on to say that medals like this were on sale in Southbys stolen from Museums and relatives.

      NK's medals were not on sale but he has not got them back so some collector has them I bet.

      Chris

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      Sotheby's Cancels Auction of Russian Orders

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by Chris S

      Gentlemen,

      I detect a common theme that we, as collectors, not only do not want stolen items (please pardon the double negative) in our collections, but would certainly refuse to buy such and would even aid in of seeing an end to such practices. Access to the description and serial numbers of stolen pieces would be beneficial in several ways.

      It would give us a list of what to look for, thereby preventing the purchase such items. It would give us data to compare to our present collections, thereby offering us the opportunity to return stolen items. It would at least slow down the resale (and thereby theft) of such items; and it would prevent the possibility of the confiscation of items which in fact were not stolen - I would not want to have to go through the time and expense of fighting a legal battle with the Russian government over ? a bureaucratic error?, you know, ? an unfortunate misunderstanding?. This is a two way street - if it?s not listed, it?s not stolen.

      Surely such a list exists or could be compiled and could be maintained by a third party or organization. Our forum? OMSA? The Russian Government? If they have the time and resources to pursue such cases, surely they could maintain such a database.

      Just some thoughts.

      Wild Card

      Just been watching a Russian news programme and the medals in question were stolen from relatives...serial numbers matched etc...i.e Nikita Khrushchev Grandson had his medals and they were stolen and these were part of the medals for sale.

      They even showed the guy who stole them...must have passed them on before that.

      Without doubt if we have a fair sized collection I would imagine some are stolen for our needs.

      I would imagine that the seller did not know they were stolen and if he did he will not have the last laugh. I am glad that they may now get back to relatives.

      Chris

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      RM Musician award

      in Great Britain: Militaria: Badges, Uniforms & Equipment

      Posted · Edited by Chris S

      Hi Chris :beer:

      Where abouts was the event? It does look like Southampton and not the dockyard? I played many ships in and get this we used to see all the girlfriends there and we saw them in "Joannas" the week before and lets just say they were enjoying themselves! :lol:

      I knew a bandy who was on Canberra in 82. His name is Fred Miller, you know him? He was a sergeant when I was in the mob and a very funny bloke. Once we both played in a small orchestra on HMS Victory for the 2nd Sea Lord and the tune we were playing was "Sobre las Olas" by J. Strauss, a well known fairground tune, well Fred was simulating shooting ducks with his flute and I was struggling to keep it together on my solo and the Bandmaster gave me a look of "dont u dare!". I did have a great time in the mob and got to know many a decent bloke and lots were Bootnecks. Mostly provost at Deal and PTI's, PWI's, oh and a mention to the provost Sergeant who once gave me a bollocking of the century but thats another story!!

      I saw a few places and I wouldnt be doing what I am now if I hadnt of joined the RM Band I am sure of it. I have so many great experiences It would take too long to

      Thanks for the pics Chris

      Rob

      Rob I was a PW1...this fot was in Estonia yesterday...joined Deal as a recruit this month in 74 and then joined CTCRM...still doing the job by other means as you are...

      The bandies on the Canberra were terrific...they were so versatile...Elvis impressions etc...in much demand and then became hands in the field...

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