joe campbell

bon vooyage, M. Bean!!

take some pictures, please!

joe

magnificent, jacques!

obviously very reminiscent of the luft plaques,

but pre-dating them.

where do you find these grat pieces?

thanks,

joe

craig-

welcome aboard! i've only been here for a matter of weeks,

but find the pace to be relaxed, the pictures excellent, and

the information most interesting.

i would caution you, however, to watch out for the rick twins.

each claims to be the "good twin".... i'm not sure who's who.

one of the reasons i left active TR collecting was my disillusionment

with the number of reproduction items i purchased. i assign

responsibility for that to no one other than me. the old radio

commercial for a clothing store in Philly comes to mind: "an

educated consumer is our best customer..." (imagine that in

a nasal, south philly dialect!). while i seldom have the repro

problem anymore, somewhere along the way i got distracted by

all those good looking medal bars. ('fess up. how many TRULY

gorgeous TR medal bars have you seen??? the beauties are

from 1860's - 1930's)

i was fortunate to meet a number of people who have been interested

in Imperial history and collecting for many years. in the past several years

i have been exposed to some pretty rare pieces, and between the

medal bars, the EK's, and a real schooling in imperial uniforms from

brian ward, what does it for me is the following:

-variety. there are variations upon variations. and

this, to some extent, is a result of

-personal pride and craftsmanship. don't get me wrong.

there are some beautiful TR pieces. but each duchy, principality,etc had it's own

hofjewellier. AH had the LDO and the PZK. and he was NOT noted for his love

of creativity.

a red leather, cased set of EK2, EK1, RK??? gorgeous! but look at a

one of a kind, or at least very rare neck order, and you tell me who the

artiste is....

peruse one of kube's or thies' catalogues. the beauty is there.

and so is the value.

a plain, cased 1914 EK 1 in about 85% condition. i just described my first

1914 EK purchase. it cost me $90. and i garantee you the ones i've come across

since are in better shape. and i also GA-RON-TEE you won't find the cases alone

for a whole lot less these days.

bottom line. TR will always have a following, but ask some of the people

who've been in the hobby for 20-40 or more years, and they'll tell you

that imperial stuff is getting very hard to find, and especially the really

top shelf stuff.

i think it's a great investment, if chosen well, and fascinating at the same time.

and most important, it's a lifetime avocation.

apologies for the diarrhea of the keyboard. you posed some questions which are thought-provoking.

regards,

joe

in the immortal words of most every male in the northern hemisphere,

"nice pair".

and, if i am correct, to the same man!

you are fortunate to have these.

joe

it is a very nice medal.

it is a BEAUTIFUL document, one of my favorites!

thanks for the pix.

joe

does this mean you paid 00.001$ for it??

too cool not to be real!

or someone's idea of a practical joke...

or a friday, 4:30 pm cross....

joe

gold stars to all!!

these are some beautiful pieces,

a sight to behold.

thanks, joe

HOOOOO-WEEE,

YOU RICKS IS CRAY-ZEE!!!!!!!!!

evil or no, yer always in for a ride

with these boys....

seriously, these are GREAT pix and the medal bar to a

mover and shaker is most impressive.

and thanks for the humor, as well!!

well done.

joe

rick and simon-

Astounding!

thank you for your rounding out the

story.

joe

chris-

i agree.

i can understand the silver and the gold,

but 24 april, 1945????

joe

i present these for your consideration and perusal.

my compliments to the moderator for his assistance in posting them.

thanks, john!!

all three are for a single wound, one black, one silver, one gold.

the gold also has what i think is his release from the wehrmacht.

each holds some interest to me.

BLACK:

- very late war(23 april 45 and 24 april 45)

- i think not issued to a soldier, but perhaps

someone in civil defense??? any thought are appreciated.

SILVER:

- a beautifully done script

- perhaps still reflective of an optimism

in the summer of "42"????

GOLD:

- for a single wound; must have been a bad one

- months between date of wound and his release

from medical care

- most interesting is that it is a wound received,

if i am correct, near Stalingrad, and for that

matter, rather late on in the "campaign".

(i am assuming this Woronesch is the

german for Voronesh outside of stalingrad)

i would be most appreciative of any thoughts

or info anyone can provide.

many thanks!

joe

i concur that the use of the nomenclature of

the country of origin is the best method of

identifying a decoration.

i will add my two cents on the military medal later

this evening.

my best regards,

joe

merci beaucoup, jacques!

!lo siento, panzerpionier!

joe

i seem to have touched a nerve.

please educate me, as i have always enjoyed/admired

the decorations of the Legion Condor.

by the way, i have a number of variations of the

iron cross which have no specific enabling regulations,

but are quite real.

and please don't assume because i am an american that

i am an expert on the congrssional medal of honor.

my apologies. my intent was NEVER to annoy.

joe

almost spooky....

beautiful chapeau.

joe

James M-

VERY pleased to see you here!!

and your wilhelm ernst as well.

joe

There was no decoration with that name... 

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i refer you to page 222 of Legion Condor Uniforms, Organization

and History by roger bender.

"The three commanders of Legion Condor (Sperrle, Volkman, and von Richthofen)

were awarded a special class of this medal with brilliants".( this paragraph is

in reference to the Spanish Military Medal(Militarmedaille)).

sorry, but i'm stickin' with my original statement, panzerpionier.

jacques, thanks for the link!

joe

i'm tellin' ya', george, it's a slippery slope....

these medal bars are addicting. from conversations

with a number of longtime collector friends, they used to be

much more commonly seen. i hope this is because they are in

collections rather than being taken apart for those "special pieces".

your recent finds have been uniformly in great condition!

joe

my thoughts as well, george.

when you look at earlier EK issues,

the frequency of these split frames

becomes greater.

joe

one could hardly improve on this time-tunnel piece!

this one has to be one of THE treasures in your collection.

and the site reference is greatly appreciated.

outstanding!!

joe

the important question on this "geneology"

is whether you are twins from the same mother....

my obstetrics stats:

2035 babies

90 sets of twins

16 sets of triplets

1 set of quads

three babies this weekend...

joe

p.s if one is evil and one is good,

does that mean the third is what??? mediocre???

i'd see your pretty and raise ya' two "gorgeouses"!!!

this is a NICE PAIR!!!

joe

in the trapezoidal base containing 1939, the ends of the trapezoid

are curved slightly, rather than flat. i do not mean the angle of the side,

but that the side has a slight curvature.

hope this helps.

joe

were these three - sperrle, volkman, and von richthofen

also the three recipients of the spanish military medal with diamonds?

i greatly enjoy these condor legion threads! thanks.

joe

that is as nice a konvolut as i have seen!

you are fortunate to have such a complete picture of this man.

joe