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The following items are from my collection and are for the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) or also known as People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN).

I will start off with the campaign badges. First is the Order for Dien Bien Phu. This campaign badge celebrates the victory of the Viet Minh over the French at Dien Bien Phu in 1954. This badge is made of aluminum, 1-1/4 in. diameter and is also found in a smaller size. It has Spring,1954 at the top, decisive battle -resolved to win on flag and Soldier of Dien Bien Phu at the bottom.

Bob

I am posting three examples of Iraqi Rank shoulderboards one which is made of nylon with the Staff College Red Stripe and German made (information from my friend in Iraq). Some shoulder boards are known to be German Made. Notice the leather strip sewn on the inside bottom.

The other two were made by the Iraqi Official Military sewing Factory (also from my friend in Iraq). Notice the quality difference between the two Iraqi made SB's.

I have had some members say that the Iraqi Made shoulderboards with one star and eagle looks like it is German made. My question is where did the "German Made" information begin? Is it because the finer quality shoulderboards was automatically given the "German Made" name or is there some proof rather than "some one said that someone said" they are German Made?

Is the only difference between German and Iraqi the leather sewn in the inside or is that just to give strength to the nylon made shoulderboards?

Bob

What is the price of this reference?

Paul,

The price of my book is $49.95 plus shipping. It costs $5.00 for shipping and insurance if sent by Media Mail. It may take a couple of extra days to arrive but is the cheapest way. Priority Mail Flat rate is $10.95 in the U.S. I am only selling to U.S. at this time to see how it goes. For more information or to order, P.M. me.

Bob

Dean,

Good luck on your show!!!

Bob

Hello to all!

I coordinate a Military Show outside of Cleveland, Ohio. If anyone is in the area, please stop by. The details of the show are below:

Dean

Military Collectors Show

Dates and Times

Friday, March 25, 2011 from 5pm-9pm

Saturday, March 26, 2011 from 9am-3pm

Location

Lakeland Community College

7700 Clocktower Drive

Kirtland, Ohio 44094 USA

Show website: www.lakelandmilitaryshow.info

Admission is $4.00

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Nick, during the aftermath of the 1983 fire, the top part of a skull was found exposed on the surface of the ground. When it was examined, the forensic evidence pointed to the remains being those of one of his lead scouts, Mitch Bouyer. Bouyer, was of French and Indian descent. Without getting into the "politics" of what happens to human remains found on American archaeological and historical sites, particularly if they happen to be aboriginal, Bouyers remains were re-interred and a head stone placed where the remains were found.

As an aside, the ecology of the region now, and that of the mid-1870's (and earlier) are not the same. What you see in the photos, does conjure up images of the past, but there is something worth remembering about all those long grasses that dry in the hot summers.

The Park Service and Department of the Interior thinking regarding grass fires and soil conservation are different from many aboriginal American groups prior to the establishment of US and State governments throughout what is now the United States. In many parts of the world, old or dead growth grasses and shrubs were typically burnt off before the start of spring, in order to allow new seeds and plants to grow, and the new green shoots to attract grazing animals that would form herds at that time and could be more easily hunted en masse. The fires could occur naturally as the result of lighting strikes, or be set intentionally to burn off the old growth. The burn-off and regrowth cycle resulted in a different ecological system than what we now see in the northern plains (and elsewhere), because of the anti-burning mindset of government, farmers/ranchers, and others who see fires as a threat that the aboriginal peoples did not.

If you guys are interested in continuing this thread, there is quite a lot of potential for discussing the site, the battle, the archaeological approach, and other aspects of the battle (and campaign).

Les,

If you have more to add, it's fine with me. Archaeology has always interested me especially of a battlefield as they follow the fight and can piece together how it was fought and the movements of soldiers, Armies, etc.

Bob

Just a couple of months after we were at what was then called the Custer Battlefield in June 1983, a fire started and burned off most of the area but the visitor center was saved. Since the ground cover was burned off, the National Park Service had teams of archaeologists dig the battlefield and follow the fight by the spent shells and relics. I remember seeing a special on either History Channel or DiscoveryChannel telling how the indians pushed the troopers back to Last Stand Hill.

Bob

A very nice collection. Thank you for sharing.

Bob

This monument is located on what is known as Reno Hill which is the site of the Reno-Benteen entrenchments.

Looking out at the terrain near Reno Hill.

Bob

Last picture from the battlefield looking back towards Last Stand Hill in the center of the picture and the visitor center on the left.

Bob

Going down the trail on the rest of the battlefield and Deep Ravine is in the middle right of the picture. The trees are where the Little Big Horn River flows and the top of the picture is where the Indians were camped.

The markers are where the troopers fell.

Looking back towards Last Stand Hill.

Bob

These are the markers where the troopers fell. These pictures are at the base of Last Stand Hill looking out towards the rest of the battlefield. The marker with the black image on it is where General Custer fell.

Bob

These pictures are from 1983 of the Little Big Horn Battlefield National Monument which was formerly known as the Custer Battlefield National Monument. The name was changed in 1991 and a Indian Memorial was proposed. Congress approved funds for the Indian memorial in 2002 and it was dedicated on June 25, 2003.

First is the 18 ton granite memorial with the 262 names of the fallen US 7th cavalry, Indian Scouts and civilians killed in this battle on June 25 and 26, 1876. It is located on what is called "last stand hill".

If anyone has more recent pictures, please feel free to post them.

Bob

Perhaps it was an economy measure. It must have been more complicated and expensive to produce the symbol on lengths of ribbon.

Regards

Brett

PS I admired your display.

Brett,

Thank you. The display was from when I collected a little bit of everything until I realized that there is too much to collect and have money to buy it all!!!

Bob

Found it! "Wartime Red Cross collection", page 3 of this section, collectors showcase if you are interested?

I looked at your "Wartime Red Cross Collection". You have some nice medals and named too!!! I bid on some British Red Cross medals years ago but always got outbid. That's the way it goes. Thanks for sharing your collection.

Bob

Nice pieces, Bob

Some more Allach can be found here: http://gmic.co.uk/in...ufaktur-allach/

John,

I can see we have good tastes after looking at your Allach pieces. It is really getting expensive if you can even find it.

Bob

This is my small collection of Korean War medals, two surrender leaflets and a Honor Guard hat badge from unknown date.

I have a question on the R.O.K. Korean War Service Medal. This was one of the first medals to come out and it has the yin and yang symbol on the medal ribbon whereas the medals you see now do not have this on the ribbon. Does anyone know anything about this?

Bob

This is a Viet Cong striped scarf (Khan Ran) and is 42 in. long and 21 in. wide. It was only worn just before going into battle.

Bob

This is my Red Cross Collection of medals, badges and pins from the U.S. and other Countries.

Bob

Scott,

Very informative!!

Bob

Scott,

This looks like an interestering place to visit. Will have to try and make it out there this summer.

Bob

A closeup of the paw showing the delicate workmanship and the mark of the Rosenthal firm that Theodore karner worked for.

Bob

Even though this is NOT an Allach piece, it was made by Theodore Karner who also made the above mentioned pieces. Marked on the bottom Th. Karner 1247.

It is 5-7/8 in. high and 6-1/4 in. wide.

I am not sure of the manufacturing year of this piece. We found this at the Gold Rush Antique Show in Rochester, MN. a few years ago.

Bob

This is a close up of the details of the lamb's head. Also a picture of the manufacturing marks on the lamb's belly. It is hard to get a decent picture of the manufacturing marks because of the glare from the porcelain and everything is white.

Bob

This is the standing lamb figurine 5-5/8 in. high, 6 in. wide, stamped # 107 and has the SS ALLACH and Prof. T. Karner incised into the white porcelain.

Bob

Here is the SS and Allach logo, number 61 for the model number and T Karner the designer name.

Bob