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This is a United States Army unissued Military Police badge. It is 2.75in. high, 1.875in. wide and pinback. It is marked on the reverse CWP.

Bob

This is a Military Police Inauguration of the President of the United States Badge for 2005. It is 2.75 in. high, 2.00 in. wide from eagle's wing tip to wing tip and is pinback.

If anyone has any more information on these type of badges, please post.

Bob

This is a Military Police Inauguration of the President of the United State Badge for the year 2001. It is 2.75 in. high, 2.00 in wide from eagle's wing tip to wing tip and pin back.

Bob

Thank you but I have one more patch that I forgot to post. It has a blue backround with a yellow bolt on it. Do you happen to know what that one is for?

The patch is for Signal. You have a nice start on Kuwaiti shoulder patches.

Bob

Bob - as Brian says - a nice item. You give the weight, does that mean you think it is silver ? If it is , then that would be a lot of silver for all of the Forces - perhaps a special guard ?

Mervyn,

I'm not exactly sure what the badge is made of. I used a magnet on the reverse and it is nonmetallic. The reason I gave the weight is because many of the later Iraqi badges were lightweight and poorly made. This badge has a nice "heft" to it and if it was silver, aren't they usually marked with the silver content? There are no marks of any kind on the reverse and no signs of oxidation on the badge.

Thank you for your comment and like I told Brian, it is a very nice badge.

Bob

Hi Bob,

That is one nice piece. Would this have been worn on day to day duty or just for special events? Sorry for my ignorance; I'm not familiar with Iraq police regalia.

Regards

Brian

Brian,

Don't feel sory for your ignorance on Iraqi Police regalia as we are all learning something different every day. This is a whole new field (Iraqi Militaria) and there is very little information available about the items that is why I try to identify,describe, and have them translated by my friend in Iraq.

My friend in Iraq said he didn't have much information about that period but that the badge was worn mostly every day.

Thank you for posting the comment on the badge and like you said, it is one nice piece.

Bob

Does anyone know what these Kuwaiti Insignias are? I know that they were all brought from the Second Gulf War ( 1990- 1991)

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Left set of four patches-

U.L.- 57 th Mechanized

U.R.- Engineer

L.L. - Motor Transport

L.r. - 13 th Anti -tank "Tow' Bn.

Middle set of four patches-

U.L.- 74th transportation Bn.

U.R.- 7th Armored Bn.

L.L.- 18 th Regimental Band

L.R.- School Instructor

Right set of four patches-

U.L.- 10th Home Guard Bn.

U.R.- 47th Aviation Bn.

L.L.- Artillery

L.R.- Combat Engineers Signal. Bayonet should be pointing up.

I hope this helps you out.

Bob

This is a Iraqi Police chest badge and was worn on a leather belt across the body in the chest area on the right side. It is thought to be made in Switzerland by the Huguenin Company even though it is not marked. It is 3.25 in from ray tip to ray tip, weighs 1.45 ounces and has two posts on the reverse for two seperate cotter pins to attach to the belt.

It was used from 1958-1968 and the translation in the inner star is "Iraqi Policemen" and inside the torch is "14th of July".

Bob

They're interesting & colourful patyches, I wonder how long before they become more mainstream collectable - what's the situation like re repro / fakes? Are any obsolete patterns copied?

Thank you for the comment on the Iraqi Police patches. Collecting Iraqi Military items is a fairly small group of people and I think it will be like the Vietnam Era items in that it took a while for it to get going. There are only two web sites that I know of so far that are almost totally dedicated to the Gulf Wars and OIF eras.

So far,it seems that the patches for the most part haven't been copied although there is a patch being sold as a original and it has a merrowed edge and shouldn't. You will notice the patches I have posted do not have a merrowed edge. The threads come up to the edge but do not go around. I believe this used to be called a cut edge patch. I have one Military Police patch that has a merrowed edge and that is because it was not made in Iraq during Saddam's time and was made outside the country and is a very well made patch. Some of the patches are covered in plastic and some even have snaps on the back to attach to uniforms. This makes for a tougher and more costly patch to reproduce.

Maybe some years down the line when more people start collecting Iraqi items, patches will start being reproduced like what happened to the German and Vietnamese items.

There are some badges being made as "souvenirs" for soldiers coming back from Iraq but they are usually made out of lead and bend very easily by finger pressure. Some of the badges even have the posts cut off on the reverse where the retaining pins go through so they will fit on the display boards better. There are some medals on ebay that have the wrong ribbons on them.

Bob

Hi - Bob. You've certainly got some good interest in your patches. Where were they made - are there places in Iraq able to do this quite complicated work ? Perhaps these later ones are being brought in from the US ?

Mervyn,

The patches are made locally in Iraq. My friend who lives in Iraq has told me that if a Commander wants a patch made for his unit, he just goes to someone who makes them and tells them what he wants and they make it up for him. I think that is why we are starting to see so many different kinds of patches coming out of Iraq especially in the Special Forces area. I'm going to start posting SF patches somewhere along the line when I have a little more time. First I want to do Iraqi Military Police patches.

Bob

This is a 2009, Ministry of Interior, Iraqi Police arm patch. It is 5.875 in. high, 4.06 in. wide and machine made.

Arc: Ministry of Interior

Below:Iraqi Police

Bob

This is a 2009, Ministry of Interior, Iraqi Police arm patch. It is 5.875 in. high, 4.06 in. wide and machine made.

Arc: Ministry of Interior

Below: Iraqi Police

Bob

This is a 2009, Iraqi SWAT, Tiger Unit set of patches. The patches are 3.375 in. diameter and velcro backed.

Bob

This is a 2009, Iraqi SWAT, Bat Unit shoulder patch. It is 3.5 in. wide, 2.75 in. high and velcro backed.

Bob

1980-1988 Iraqi-Iranian War Wound Medal is different (earlier) from the regular type in the following:

The medal on the left is the different (earlier) type of medal.

1- larger Arabic letter (Jhim) on the obverse side.

2- larger hanging ring.

3- different red colors for the medal (lighter) and for the ribbon (darker).

4- different surface (smooth) instead of (pebbled) on the reverse side.

5- different hanging pin on the reverse of the ribbon.

The different medal was the first type of wound medal which was used in the early 1980's while the regular type was used later.

This information came from my friend in Iraq who I have been doing business with for 9 years now. The records for much of the Iraqi Laws on military items has been lost, looted or destroyed and it wasn't a good idea to be asking questions during Saddam's reign.

Bob

This is a shoulder patch for the SALAAH ALDEEN Province EOD.

It is machine made, 3.25 in. wide and 3.875 in. high.

Bob

This is a Al Nissir (eagle) Force for Fast Enterance (quick response) patch. The patch is machine made, 3.56 in. diameter and has a velcro back.

Above: a verse from the Holy Qur'an which means (prepare to them what you able to from power).

Below: Al Nissir Force for Fast Enterance.

Bob

This is a 2006, Al Fahad (Leopard) Force Unit, 1st Crowd patch. It is machine sewn and 3.375 in. in diameter.

Above: Force of

Below: Al Fahad

Left: First

Right: Crowd

Bob

This ia a Ministry of Interior, Emergency Crowds arm patch. The size is 4.375 in high, 3.50 in. wide at the arc and is velcro backed.

Arc: Ministry of Interior

Middle: Ministry of Interior

Below: Emergency Crowds

Bob

This patch is for a 2006, Control Saver, Civil Enterance, Al Karrar Brigade, 1st Crowd arm patch.

The size of the patch is 4.75 in high and 4.375 in wide.

Above right: Al Karrar Brigade

Above left: First Crowd

Below right: Control Saver

Below left: Civil enterance

A Control Saver were troops started before the current National (Federal) Police and were responsible for the interior security.

Bob

This is a Iraqi Structures Protection arm patch. It is machine sewn, 3.25 in. diameter and used after 2003.

Bob

This is a Iraqi Customs Police am patch. It was used after 2003, is machine made,3 in. wide and 3.5 in. high.

Above: Customs Police.

Bob

This is a set of Iraqi Border's Forces, Security Department arm patches. They are 3.875 in. dia.

Above: Iraqi Border's Forces Directorate

Bob

This is an Iraqi Customs Police chest patch. It is machine made, 5.125 in. long and 1.31 in. wide.

Bob

This is a 2009, National Police Command, 8th Brigade glazed badge. It is 1.5 in. diameter and has a manufactured fastening device.

Above: National Police Command

Right: loyalty for

Left: the country(home)

Below: the Eighth Brigade

Bob