bmsm

This South Vietnamese patch is for the National Police Resources Control. The patch is 2.5 in. wide and 3.25 in. high and is a printed style.

Translation:

KS- Kiem Soat- Control

TN- Tai Nguyen- Resources

Bob

This patch is for the National Police Institute.The patch is bevo woven type, 2.06 in. wide and 2.75 in. tall.

Part of the translation:

Hoc Vien: Institute

Ky Luat: Discipline

Dan Du: Honor

Bob

The lower Arabic translates as "The Nejdah Police".

Regards,

Owain

Owain,

Thanks for catching the error on the translation. That is what happens when working overtime and then trying to do a quick post and not checking what was posted. Nejdah in Arabic means "rescue" so the translation should be "Rescue Police".

Regards,

Bob

Owain - really interesting to see these - thankyou. What period would they be - current , or the old Government. I must say that to see the old historical names of Baghdad and Ninevah - dating back 5000 years was quite exciting. Do you have some more Iraqi Police items you can show ?

Apologies to 'bmsm' who I see actually started the post. First names help prevent these mistakes !!!

I wasn't sure how Iraqi Police Arm patches would be received instead of badges so I didn't post any more.

Bob

This is a Police arm patch from Al Mosul,Iraq. It is 4.625 in. high and 3 in. wide and embroidered.

The translation is-

Above: Iraqi Police

Below: Ninavah (Al Mosul) Police

This ia a Police arm patch for Baghdad,Iraq. It is 3.75 in. diameter and is embroidered. The number 104 is the number for the Police in Baghdad.

The translation at the bottom of the patch is: Iraqi Police.

Bob

I'm not sure if this is the correct section to post this topic but while I was at a Military Show in Minneapolis,Mn. on the October 3-4 weekend, Craig Luther told me Marty Vaughan had died August 1 in Florida and was buried in Ohio. Craig had just learned about it just before the Military Show.

Marty was a pioneer in the collecting of Iraqi militaria and published the first book (50 copies) of An Introduction to the Military Badges, Insignia, Patches and Medals of Iraq.

Bob

I just found this new medal, does any one have any information on it?????????? I Know that it is for the Arab Unity of Youth Medal???

Thank you

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

You are on the right track.NUISY under the head stands for National Union for Iraqi Students and Youth.

Bob

Bob

Do you think your friend in Iraq can I.D this badge for me???

Thank you

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

I can help you out with most of it.

Above on the hanging plate: In the name of Merciful God

Above the badge: Iraqi Republic

Head of Endowment Office

Below: it wasn't clear in the photo (sorry).

Bob

Here is a pice I bought from a friend in Baghdad, Iraq. I need a liitle help in Identifing the piece:

Thank you so very much:

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

What would you do with out me?

Translation:

Above: God is Great and the victory is for us

Below: Special First Army Command.

Bob

I, too, Would like to know the color of the Qardoon for the Medical service. Thanks for the great info on the Qardoon!!!

Doc

Doc and Paul,

I had my friend do some checking on the qardoons.He asked another dealer about the medical department qardoons and he didn't think the medical department had one. As far as the green qardoon, my friend was told there isn't any specific rank that used the green color but this and other colors were used by detachments in the Military Training Centers to differentiate each detachment from one another. My friend is going to ask another one or two dealers to double check on this information and get back to me. That is all I have for now.

Bob

Thanks for your translation! I do really appreciate it. Are you able to read Arabic or is your friend helping you? I have always been intrigued by that language.

Paul,

My friend in Iraq does the translating for me that way I know it is correct.

Bob

Here is a closeup of the writing on the packet.

Paul,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I got side tracked with posting the different cord colors on a different post.

The Iraqi Eagle-The Iraqi State started to use this eagle as a official emblem since 1963 and this eagles shape was used by the old Islamic leader Salladin from the Ayoobi State around 500A.H.

The large translation below the eagle is " Iraqi Republic".

Bob

Thanks Bob. The information you give is invaluable!!

I have heard of a solid green Qardoon. Any word on that one?

Is there a specific Qardoon for the military medical branch?

I am checking on your question and will post it when I get any information.

Bob

Here is a medal i just picked up from one of my friends for a good price.

Can some one please help me I.D this Iraqi Piece of history.

I want to put it into the OMSA Medals Data Base:

Thank you

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

If you wiil look on page # 3 Middle East & Arabian Countries, post # 1 by Sivart ( maybe Fedayeen) the collar disc on the left side has the same emblem as your medal. I had identified it as a collar dics for the Military Academy. I asked my friend in Iraq about your medal and he hadn't seen one like that before but he agreed that the middle of your medal had the same emblem as the Military Academy.

Good luck on your search for more treasures!

Bob

Thanks!!!

Where are you finding this information?

Also, I am sure that there are other colors as well?

Now only:

red and blue,

yellow,

black,

Any any others I may be missing!

Paul R and Lorenzo,

I have been following your posts while waiting for my friend in Iraq to answer me about the different color of ropes.

First of all, habel is not the correct name for the cords. Habel means a rope that you pull or drag things with. The name of the cord which goes around the shoulder is Qardoon.

There are eighteen different shoulder cords that my friend knows of and here is the list. Some are still in use

1- Infantry-red and green

2- Artillery- red and deep blue

3- Electrical and Mechanical Engineer-red and yellow

4- Military Transportation- red and brown

5- Tank- red and gray

6- Republican Guard-red

7- Military Police- white- still used

8- Air Defense- red and light blue

9- Civil Defense- red and white

10- Higher Officers Official Uniform-gilt (or yellow)

11- 3rd Army (legion)-black and gilt

12- Military College Students-red- still used

13- Air Force College Students-light blue

14- Police-black and olive

15- Traffic Police- white and deep blue, still used

16- Police MP (Control Units) - black

17- Police-Nationality Department-black and white

18-Police College Students-white

I hope this helps you out. I have a question on # 6 and # 12 both being red so will check into it a little farther.

Bob

If anyone can translate the inscription, I would be most thankful!

Paul,

A nice badge and you have the presentation packet to go with it. Most of the time you find the badge without the packet.

The translation is- The Leader President Saddam Huseyin.

I hope this helps you out.

Bob

Is it made out of actual gold?

I have been following the comments on the Sword of Al Qadissiyah so I would like to post some information that I have on the Decoration.

I took Lorenzo's advice and wrote an article for the JOMSA magazine on the Sword of Al Qadissiyah in November of 2008 so it should be out sometime this year. I have an Decoration like the one posted here at GMIC only mine is on the OMSA website since April 2008. My Decoration was purchased in September 2007 from my friend in Iraq.

The Decoration is a gold plated metal and the stone is an imitation one. It is not known how many were awarded as the information was classified at that time and it wasn't a good idea to be asking too many questions. Many of the official buildings were looted after the fall of Saddam so who knows what happened to the records.

Bob

Reverse photograph.

Hello,

A very nice Decoration. Did you know that an actual sword was awarded to go with this decoration?

Bob

Here are some documents:

http://iraqimilitaria.blogspot.com/2009/01...gned-award.html

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

Those are very nice looking documents.At least you are having some luck finding your treasures!

Bob

Here is a piece that i am looking to buy, but I need the information on this Iraqi Cap before I add it to my collection.

Thank you

Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

First of all,Happy New Year to you. I sent a scan of the hat to my friend in Iraq and this is his reply.The hat is a Higher Officers visor hat for the navy and used between 1991 and 2003 with the Morning White Official Suit. Hang in there and keep looking for those hidden treasures.

Bob

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Mike,

I sent a scan of the document to my friend in Iraq anf this is his translation.

Above the eagle: In the Name of Merciful Allah(God)

Above right: Republic of Iraq

Prime Minister Office

No....

Date 21/5/2007

Below the eagle(above middle):secret and confidential

to/ the General Inspector in the American Embassy

subject/postal package

Al Salmu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuhu ( Islamic greeting )

we are removing to you the postal package which came to Iraq through the post offices.

To take what necessary..with respect

Middle right: attachments:

above package

Below left: signed by the office of prime minister Noori Al Maliki-Dr. Tariq Najim Abdullah-prime minister

office's director-at 20/5/2007

Below right: copy to/

arrangement office of the prime minister office for controling affairs/your book(document)

no. 205 of 17/5/2007/ please check with respect

-control unit

- pursuance

- export books(documents) file

I thought you might like the complete translation to keep for yourself. A nice document for your collection.

Bob

Back of Painting:

Need the information "

Translated"

Thank you for viewing

SSG Luna, Lorenzo

Lorenzo,

I sent a scan of the back of the painting to my friend in Iraq and this is what he sent back.

Above and right: 805

birthday of the leader prsident field marshal

Saddam Huseyin ( Allah/God safe him)

___

Fakhri Ahmed Shareef-Mosul/Dawassa (carpentry

and decoration)

home no.252/216 C Al Glaziani Camp/area

phone 760457

I hope this helps you out. Stay safe and good luck in your search for medals and orders.

Bob

Some more branch insignia.

Greg,

A few more identifications on your rank badges in post #3 .

Upper left-Military pharmacy rank used in both Kingdom and Republican period.Also used for military vetinarian medicine in Kingdom period.Infantry rank and communication rank.

Lower left- Lower quality beret badge used after 2000.

Lower right-Officers of H.Q. Army inside Ministry of Defense site in Baghdad rank.

Bob

Next up is some branch insignia. Again unless otherwise stated these all came directly from former Iraqi military. I had a chance to meet a number of former military as they were employed by KBR and helped organize a lot of KBR security.

Greg,

The insignia that you have are called rank in Iraq. It is similiar to our "collar brass" and can be worn on the collar and beret (or hat).

Upper left -Iraqi Air Force Wing rank and Armor rank

Lower left-Artillery rank,demining rank (removes mines,etc.),and electrical mechanical engineer rank.

I hope this helps in your identification.

Bob