ErichB

thank you Gordon for the update, the book sounds huge like Torpedos los. much success

additional question and thank you for the response about those two ships/Talleys.

the U-Tenders were they individually in place for individual U-Boot Flottille support ? hope this makes sense. In other words 1 Tender per Flottille or ?, depending on the theater of ops ?

again thank you

Erich ~

Gordon, first of will be watching for your KM Fleet badge book coming out through Bender hopefully at years end.

thanks for the clarity was wondering could you add as to which U-Tender talleys of that listing are incorrect ?

Erich ~

An interesting list and quite useful for some areas but like several others it seems to be based on the assumption that for each ship there actually was a tally ribbon. I've yet to meet a serious tally ribbon collector who believes in a Bismarck or Tirpitz ribbon and some of the U-Boat Tender ribbons listed didn't exist.

I think we'll have to wait for the Wedeking & Bodeux book for a really definitive and accurate study.

Gentlemen not to fog up the topic but just as a listing that I have found beneficial for keepsake on the KM Bands is :

http://www.kieler-jung.de/katalog/kmarineliste.htm

hth

Erich ~

Gordon / J. Temple-West

many thanks, I see I was not as far off as I thought. Much appreciated for your kindly, concise comments

Erich ~

Gentlemen :

noticed a few pre-war KM cap Talleys with the Kommandantur prefix for different port locations.

question : what does the term Kommandantur mean in this reference ~ garrison of artillery, Flak, mines, or ....... am I way off ?

thank you

Erich ~

Bob

sounds like the PK foto I have of him with Raeder and B?tow placing the Ritterkreuz around his neck. Klaus signed the front and back for me in Silver pencil. Klaus is wearing his earlier Minenabzeichen and Zerst?rerabzeichen badges besdies EK I and his Spainish Cross.

Great pic

E ~ I'll try and place here and complete the set of fotos and text from him besides put up a M?tzenband of the 2. Schnellbootflottille that I own and it's Begleitschiff.

Bob

did you know that Feldt is still alive one of the few RK winners to be still with us. Just received a very nice package from him 2 days ago in fact....... quite a gentleman

I also own a copy of the foto you have on the left

Erich ~

Paul your latest acquirements were from Weitze possibly ? I am proposing that the latest may have been the gold gilt thread faded but Gordon and John should give their input on this one as I am fairly new to the collecting of the KM bands myself. Mine are all the Gilt wire, several of them faded to the interesting darker copper and green tones.

if I understand correctly the gilt wire may have been private purchase and as well pre-war and that the yellow cellon and cotton pieces were war issuant ?

E ~

Gents the K?rland cuff title was to be worn by KM personell on which sleeve ?

thank you

E ~

another fantastic S-Boot grouping Erik ! thanks for sharing these, and to see a 12 Mai 45 date for the Kurland title with Holzapfel signature ....... great .............

Erich ~

Nesredep can you identify this Boot in the last photo and the location ? beautiful shot

Erich ~

Gordon :

many thanks for your reply, just trying to make a placement of data in my files for some of these "unknown" KM ships/personell

Erich ~

not real sure where to put this thread but here goes

Concerning the ops carried on by several of the Artilliere Schule boots, the crews would of been entitled to which KM award/abzeichen and Ukrunde ?

Zerst?rer or ??

thanks

Erich ~

just noting the S-booten pics/camo from the 1st page. seems to be a Flottille based in Finnish waters including their Tender Tsingtau : Schnellboote vor ! bei Hugo Burger

image might be a bit small...........

Mike there still is grey original paint under the green on the tube section showing ......... hard to say one way or the other about the shield

Erik a fantastic grouping I must say with actions photos just to add. Are there date inscriptions with the action shots ?

Gerhard Woszek born: 09.10.1919, received the DK : 07.01.1944 as Seem.Uffz.

E ~

Indeed Gordon and correct, I have another very sharp photo of T?niges one of the best I have seen with a very clear signature in black on a white base bottom, will try and get that photo downloaded soon.

a shame really but many of the KM personalities used a blue or black pen over their tunics and the signatures are very hard to discern. case in point is Horst Weber of the 3rd S-Bootflottille, later the 1st Schn.Bt. Division.

thank you David, the original grey finish can be seen and from what I understand this was put into Finnish service after war due to the green paint and the black imprinted SA on the barrel-tube

full shot of Ossi Romm

one from Hans Weik

hopeful this thread is still going

a couple of gents I had the pleaseure to sepak with all from the very effective IV.Sturm/JG 3 Fw 190A unit

Will Unger

S-boot ace Werner T?niges

a small one of Klaus to go with the nice colured pic above

Gordon if I may

Friedrich Kemnade from the 3rd S-bootflottille, recently passed away on 29th of Janaur 2008