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The red Eagle does not belong there.
It was a Cross of the Prussian General Honor Award on the 1st place.
Best regards
Daniel
thanks do you have some image of the medal (GHW, is for everybody or for NCO and OR??)...the ribbon seems pretty similar with the rettungsmedaille too...No possibility of REO in these ribbon, itsn?t??
Thnaks
Miguel
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Please help me with the abbreviations and correct meaning...
Thanks
miguel
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Can someone help me to undesrtand this bar???
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Miguel
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Hello "hipnos":
As I understand it, the markings on the rim of your medal under reference are normally found on original specimens of this particular medal. The "835" denotes silver content, and "PR. M. BLN" stands for something like the Presidential Mint (Munzamt) of the Chancellery located in Berlin, which is where it would have been produced.
John
Thanks, John
Miguel
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LAST RBO.
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1RED BANNER REV AND COMPLETE 2ND RBO.
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THE SECOND GROUP OF 3 RED BANNERS...
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3THD PART
OPW 2C OBV. OPW1C. OBV.& REV.
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SECOND PART
RED BANNER, OPW 2C. TRANSFORMED...???
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THAT?S THE FIRST PART OF THE FIRST GROUP
NEVSKY AND GENERAL VIEW
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I came across some, apparently, very desirable groups but some what seems crude and the prices involved are enough high as to ask for help
Help!!!
Thanks
Miguel
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Anybody can be of some help about the "being" of this offerd Slava 2nd class???
I know that the pics are very small to be very precise...but that?s all we have.
Thanks
Miguel
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I believe that she is a War Cross for officiers will grant al personal that she will have made acts or "very outstanding" services that had extraordinary effectiveness for the development del it fights or it battles.
- For chiefs, plaque with silver bottom.
Cross military with Palms will grant to the personnel who, having proposed for Promotion or Military Medal, totally does not fill the indicated conditions, but if he reunites them superior to the demanded for the Cross military.
- The plaque described with the variations of being of dark red enamel the shield, that takes to the legend "AL M?RITO EN CAMPA?A" and the addition of two superposed crossed gold palms.
The Order of 15.01.1940 authorizes the personnel who is in possession of the War Cross so that he takes in the ribbon bar, like symbol, an equal silk ribbon which he represented the old Cross of Maria Cristina width of three centimeters, divided in three equal parts: the central, with the national flag colour (red/yellow/red), and those of the flanks, white, with a crimson edge, of a millimeter.
The last image corresponds to a CROSS for enlisteds of the Order of Maria Cristina, not to a War Cross
Also I have found this, but not if is the same person
DECREE by which Knight of the Imperial Order del Yoke and the Arrows, granting to him the Grand Cross to Mr. Ettore Muti, Minister Secretary of the Facist Party of Italy and General Consul of the M.V.S.N.
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I add some images more...(sorry for tyhe quality)
Notwhitstanding the great knowledge of Antonio Prieto, IMHO, the lower degree of the award, that?s only for Privates and Corporals and is the cross Before described. with the ribbon blue-white-blue. (The image with the maria cristina cross, without lys flower in the ecusson, bears, clearly, the Mural crown and the violet stripe on the ribbon that makes it as correspondent to a "Republicanized" Maria Cristina award.
For more information:
So, The order of awards precedence in the Nationalist Army was:
1/Cruz laureada---------------------------------------Laureate cross of st. Ferdinand
2/ Medalla Militar--------------------------------------Military Medal
3/ Avance en la escala por meritos de Guerra-----Advancement in grade for combat merits
4/ Cruz de Guerra con Palmas----------------------War Cross with Palms
5/ idem sin palmas----------------------War Cross
6/ Cruz del merito militar (distintivo rojo)---------Military Merit cross red enamel (War merit)
7/ Citacion--------------------------------------------MID ??
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The Star (This is a Breast Star, Normaly worn at the Left pocket or under it), is a directly descendent of the Maria Cristina order., But , being a New one non conected with the Monarchie, it bears some differences: is smaller in Diametre, the crow is the "open" style or Imperail crown favored by nationalist forces (General Franco), No Lys flowers (Borbonic) on the central "ecuson", instead they bear a Granate fruit (Reminiscents fronm the Catholic king conquest of the Moorish Kingdom of Granada, that ended the Spanish "reconquista" (re-conquest or expulsion of the arabs from spain after 800 yera of domination, in 1490)
The Star is Called: War cross, (Cruz de Guerra) and has some Grades:
Grand cross: With right shoulder band (Ligh Blue with central white stripe) and the Cross (greek) of oxidized silver with gold rim and with gilded central crown, and four swords at the angles (only the handles are visibles) - this cross is the same of the war cross for OR. badge-, pending from a bow
and is intended for field officers (Blue ring with "MERITO EN CAMPA?A" on it; and red ring with the same lettering for junior officers and NCO)
War cross (for field officers): As described above, with the central lettering "MERITO EN CAMAPA?A" (Campaign or field merit), on a Blue backgroundg.
War cross for junior officers and NCO: As above but the lettering comes on a red background
War cross for soldiers and Corporals: As described in the Grand cross, but being a breast ribbon (blue-white-blue) cross
If the merits are nearly enough to have an advance (of grade) in the scale, or a the Military medal, but has not enough for them but the merits are superior that those for the War cross: The central part bears 2 gilded palms (as you can see at the pics)
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And the rest of it. Looks like a pretty complete uniform, but what do I know?
Nice uniform. Is aTypical on regulation uniform of the Spanish Civil War:
Cap (Gorra): Of a regulation (Darker shade of Khaki), and coarse tissue, with the stars of a Leutenant (Junior leutenant is called Alferez in the spanish army of the period), Two 6 pointed stars...The jacket (Guerrera) is of a bette quality light weight tissue, lighter and probably, privately purchased. It bears the Arm of service device emboidered at the lapels: Infantry. The Breeches (Pantalones de montar), are of the typical "Chickpea" (Garbanzo) spanish color.
The field officer from Comandante (Mayor) to Coronel (Colonel) bears 8 points stars
The general officers bears 4 pointed stars wit a Sword & batton device on it From 1 star (General de brigada-Brigadier general-) to 4 in Lozenge shape stars of the full general. The King is unique in bear 5 stars (Capitan general)
regards
Miguel
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And the rest of it. Looks like a pretty complete uniform, but what do I know?
Nice uniform. Is aTypical on regulation uniform of the Spanish Civil War:
Cap (Gorra): Of a regulation (Darker shade of Khaki), and coarse tissue, with the stars of a Leutenant (Junior leutenant is called Alferez in the spanish army of the period), Two 6 pointed stars...The jacket (Guerrera) is of a bette quality light weight tissue, lighter and probably, privately purchased. It bears the Arm of service device emboidered at the lapels: Infantry. The Breeches (Pantalones de montar), are of the typical "Chickpea" (Garbanzo) spanish color.
The field officer from Comandante (Mayor) to Coronel (Colonel) bears 8 points stars
The general officers bears 4 pointed stars wit a Sword & batton device on it From 1 star (General de brigada-Brigadier general-) to 4 in Lozenge shape stars of the full general. The King is unique in bear 5 stars (Capitan general)
regards
Miguel
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That?s the Bravery cross w/ bar 1940...
Miguel
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Probably the Medal of Military Merit, instituted 28 February 1917 and awarded in 4 classes for heroism and leadership in combat.An that is the military medal post-1940, yellow ribbon, with red stripes, no bar 1940. King?s cypher crossed (george "G" in greel alphabet) "au lieu" of the phoenix, and 1940 in the rev. side.
regards
Miguel
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@ Miguel: as you stated is a Saxon Frackspange (Civilian tuxedo medal bar), so it must be read from right to left... so it's correct; first the AO and then the FA-Medal and at last the EK (since is not a Saxon decoration), as per pre-1933 fashion...
Ciao,
Claudio
Thanks All is clear Now...
Miguel
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Hello Miguel:
This group is absolutely correct for a Sachsen Junior Officer.
Best regards,
"SPM"
So the Friedrich August silver medal has precedence over the Albrecht order MS????
Thanks
Miguel
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It?s correct???
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Miguel
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What is the picklefaub helmet device on the ribbon for?
Doc
The seller says is a "Guard" group???
What do you think is the saxe medal with swords in 2nd position on the first bar...?? (Saxe meiningen, saxe duchies????)
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I think that while they are still up for sale you should ask privately for opinions.
Sorry, evidently that?s make sense
Miguel
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some more bars...
Thanks for you help.
Miguel
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Please do you think they are Ok or a fancy group...? Do you think the 2nd bar with the REO could be traceable??
Thanks
Miguel
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Polish orders and medals some help needed
in Central & Eastern European States
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The other 2 docs...I?ve write the abbreviations wrong...
It?s possible that they are merit cross in Silver and in gold, (they are Military, w/swords??)
Thanks again
miguel