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      German cross 1st class with swords to a Spanish Colonel

      in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards

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      The other day a friend of mine, antiquary, came across of a lot of items appertaining to a family of long-tradition military. And ask me on some of the pieces that he find

      A lot more are in the Boxes...Photographic documents, Spanish decorations, Spanish General full dress or shash -or belt-) After WW2 This man become Full general in the Spanish Army. I supose that the original award documents will come to the light too...

      The more eye-catching is this Order of the German eagle in gold, neck decoration, first class, i think. In their original box. The order condition is Mint.

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      Spanish Order and medal wanted

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      Posted · Edited by hipnos

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      Miguel, you mentioned that the Alfonso 12 medal may have been only used during the Carlos Wars. If that is so, what kind of medal would my Great Grandfather have received in 1891? As I said I never saw the medals. Thanks, respectfully Captain George Albert

      Guerras carlistas...The Carlist Wars in Spain were the last major European civil wars in which pretenders fought to establish their claim to a throne. Several times during the period from 1833 to 1876 the Carlists followers of Infante Carlos (later Carlos V) and his descendants rallied to the cry of "God, Country, and King" and fought for the cause of Spanish tradition (Legitimism and Catholicism) against the liberalism, and later the republicanism, of the Spanish governments of the day.

      When Ferdinand VII of Spain died in 1833, his fourth wife Maria Cristina became Queen regent on behalf of their infant daughter Isabella II. This splintered the country into two factions known as the Cristinos (or Isabelinos) and the Carlists. The Cristinos were the supporters of the Queen Regent and her government. The Carlists were the supporters of Carlos V, a pretender to the throne and brother of the deceased Ferdinand VII, who denied the validity of the Pragmatic Sanction of 1830 that abolished the semi Salic Law (he was born before 1830).

      The First Carlist War (1833-1839)lasted over seven years and the fighting spanned most of the country at one time or another, although the main conflict centered on the Carlist homelands of the Basque Country and Aragon, Catalonia and Valencia.

      The Second Carlist War was a minor Catalonian uprising lasting two years from 1846 to 1849. The rebels tried to install Carlos VI on the throne. In Galicia, the uprising was put down by General Ramón María Narváez.

      The Third Carlist War (1872-1876)began in the aftermath of the deposition of one ruling monarch and abdication of another. Queen Isabella II was overthrown by a conspiracy of liberal generals in 1868, and left Spain in some disgrace. The Cortes (Parliament) replaced her with Amadeo, the Duke of Aosta (and second son of King Victor Emmanuel of Italy). Then, when the Spanish elections of 1872 resulted in government violence against Carlist candidates and a swing away from Carlism, the Carlist pretender, Carlos VII, decided that only force of arms could win him the throne. The Third Carlist War began. It lasted until 1876.

      SO, I must make some reseach work...colonial activity was evident in the last spanish possesions (Cuba, Philipinnes, Puertorico, etc...), so too in North africa (I´ve a africa medals dated 1860, but this was the queen Isabel II...

      I don´ñ t forget you, don´t worry.

      Regards from Spain... :cheers:

      Miguel

      I had some esplendid pics i´ve finded in a carlist blog in Spain...

      The bar is of an Officer...but you can see a Beneficiencia order...5 from the left. The medal of distinction of Alfonso XII was instituted in 1874...¿?¿?and in 1876 the other similar medal...

      Hope this can be of some help...

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      Spanish Order and medal wanted

      in Spain

      Posted · Edited by hipnos

      Medal of distinction of Alfonso XII goes from 190 to 90€€ depending on the use, ribbon, and bars...this pictured is item nr:16081415 at the same site

      I hope that you can find something... :D

      Regards :cheers:

      miguel

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      Spanish Order and medal wanted

      in Spain

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      I posted his story in "The Recipients Story" Enjoy, translating spanish is not my high point!

      Very interesting history...and very documented as well...If you need some help to translate something from spanish to english, you can send me any paper you want...I´ll try my best...The Orden of the beneficiencia (Order or mercy) is not difficult to find but it´s a littel expensive..., as is the Alfonso XII medal you depicted, but I think that this medal is mainly to "Loyal" trops enged against the carlistas in the spanist Carlist civil war.(1873-75)

      I´m find a very similar the one you want at a auction (ebay -like) spanish site named: www.todocoleccion.net item nr:13619645 180€, breast star is more expensive 650€ item nr:15959520

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      This group could be "kosher"?

      in Germany: Imperial: Rick (Research) Lundstrom Forum for Documentation and Photographs

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      Hello Hipnos:

      I saw this too. Not only is the EKII a modern forgery, but many of the ribbons appear to be modern. I have also never seen a large medal bar from this period put together in this manner. So overall, the value of the group would only include the market value of the four (4) remaining pieces on the bar [of which some appear to possibly be non-issued (period?) restrikes].

      So, this is definately not good.

      Best regards,

      "SPM"

      Thanks gents... :rolleyes:

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      Spain

      in Spain

      Posted · Edited by hipnos

      Hi Miguel, thanks for the information you sent. can you tell me what time period/for which war you are referring to as i don't want to speculate and put down the wrong years. if you come across any further info or pic's of the items i will be pleased to hear from you again.

      I´m speaking of the Spanish civil war period...so: 1936-1939. After the end of the war (april 1939), all the "Provisionales" are supposedly been licensed...

      The "alféreces provisionales",are "de facto" section leaders, and, for war merits, could attaint the grade of lieutenant for "combat merits". For all this the "Provisionales" always commanded from the first line in close combat and in assaults of ennemy positions and they are the first to fall dead...(In the civil war a saying was: "alférez de complemento, cadáver al momento",-acting sublieutennant, instant corpse- or "alférez provisional, cadáver efectivo". - -acting subliutenent efective corpse- It was saying that the life of a "Alferez provisional" was of 16 minutes...(an exageration, of course)

      Add: The "Alferez" grade (from the Arab: الفارس al-fāris, "the knight" -el caballero-

      o " The rider" -"el jinete"- ) is the junior military grade in some countries

      I´ve attached the image of an Alferez de complemento:

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      Spain

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      I recently purchased this item <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270317776180&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=017" target="_blank">INSIGNIA DE LOS ALF?RECES PROVISIONALES (VIUDAS)</a><!--sizeo:1--><span style="font-size:8pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--> <!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->on ebay from Spain. A literal translation reads ' STANDARD OF THE PROVISIONAL LIEUTENANTS (WIDOWS) '. I had previously seen this badge and a very short description stating that it is a type of military NOK badge. I also have a pic of one that was described as a civilian NOK badge. I have them both pictured in my album but will paste them here as well. I am looking for information on these items for the 2nd volume of my Wound Medals, Badges & NOK awards book. Any assistance will be acknowledged and very much appreciated. thanks.

      I think that this is a non official "sweetheart" issue...The black rectangle with the six pointed star is the insignia of the "Alferez" grade ...the lowest junior officer grade one can find in the spanish army...He cames from the civil war when volunteers of some education were, after a brief period of "condensed" officer instruction go to the rangs as "Provisional" officer (or acting officer) as a "fill the gap" war mesure, due to the shortage of career officers(Alferez provisional, similar to: = Fahnenjunker, ensign, etc... provisional).

      The grade was only for the duration of war time and it was supposed that after this, the acting officer will be discharged and return home...a civilian again...

      I hope this will be of some help

      Miguel

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      Oldemburg-Schwarzburg group

      in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States

      Posted

      Very interesting. That appears to be a silvered brass Schwarzburg medal, making it either a rather scarce transitional model (the brass was needed for artillery shells so they went quickly from that to zink after abandoning silver) or it is a post-1918 Spangenstück.

      The combination suggests two possibilities:

      1) Navy/Marines and someone from Schwarzburg decorated by Oldenburg

      2) 10th Ersatz Infantry Division. Its Brigade Ersatz Battalions of 1914 remained mixed composite units after being made into regiments later in the war.

      There is always the potential that SOME DAY Oldenburg and Schwarzburg award rolls may be done.

      Thnaks, Rich, always a pleasure hear you and your deep knowledge...

      Regards...

      Miguel

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