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Hi,this is one of the several versions of G?ring cufftitles,I don?t know which one....but must be late war

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Hi,again showing off to kill probation

I just found a topic covering this one here,sorry for having found too late and posting in the wrong section...BTW:am I right with assuming this one to be bronce?

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Hi,I have no real clue on this one,maybe you can help on that...

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This is just to show off

Although this is a very interesting topic,I think it requires a bit of in-depth knowledge to take part in discussion.(I for one don?t even have neither EK nor KVK of the MM in question,apart from my serious lack of knowledge...)

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I have to apologize for having made a spelling mistake myself

It is not Georg HiRtl it is simple Georg HITL.

Sorry for that one,always get confused with that name....

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I have lil bit of info to add about the company history:

1778 founded by Carl Poellath

1898 Owner:Georg Hirtl

Company name at that time: Carl Poellath Pr?geanstalt Schrobenhausen

1923 Hirtl dies

Now with that prior post?s telephone book picture showing again another owner in 1941

couldn?t it be possible that the management didn?t pay 100% attention on the spelling as the founding-family left the company years earlier with the take-over by Hirtl.

That?s the first reasonable approach on this apart from Marcus?s check and compare idea.From the point of view you introduced I must admit it sounds pretty reasonable in regard to total numbers of cases,and here is where I see the link to the point that the case looked like made for something else for it being too large,but then again is the L/12 MM a no-go,resulting in the case being fake.Here I must also admit that the case came to my family in the early eighties,so there is a period without real guarantee nobody changed or added something.Even though everything the RKT had was together including documents etc....So I see,my view is turning......thanks for that perspective...

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Thanks for your reponses!My pics are on probation

@Marcus:All pictures asked for will be made by Sunday!Yes,you are right with the crumbeld up base covering,this comes along with some lose piping areas in the corners.

The recipient was indeed killed as Leutnant d.R.

@David:

I was told that story of the cottage industry,but I can?t withstand my prior asked question ,who just makes one of these?That?s never been answered,you know if a company had made them I believe that at least more should exist.I also believe if there existed others I would have found them on some repro dealers site.Also hasn?t there been anyone up to now,who ever saw this thing.

And please don?t get me wrong,I don?t want to make you believe anything,it?s rather I would like to hear fact based arguments on this specific piece,that?s why I really appreciate Marcus post.

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So from the missing comments I guess either you know the post I presented it on another forum or you just don?t like it.Anyway maybe someone replies on this questions:

Given the chance it is a repro,why can?t I find it anywhere?Is it a common repro-artist behaviour to just produce one fake?And finally if self-made why would someone put a MM on the BACK of the case,where no one can see it?

I see this is a Gentlemans forum,so I consider silence as being polite,maybe someone has thoughts....

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Thanks for the warning!However,I am no ebayer,thats a melting-pot of repro-sellers to me.It?s ok if you are looking for cheap junk,but not when you like to get real stuff IMO.Even though,I must admit I have seen items bought via ebay that were good,but I bet nowadays these items quickly fall prey to the collector-community,making them as expensive as if bought via famous dealers.

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Thank you very much.So now I know at least the name of the medal.Are those other ones mentioned hard to come by?

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Hi again,

I also need help with this one.....Thanks for any comments

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Thanks again.Appreciating your help....

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Thanks for the reply,really appreciate that.Do you know by chance a name this one goes by?With expensive did you mean then or now?

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Hi,can anyone tell me what this is,apart from the obvious lettering.Thanks