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Hi, although Kassel in Spring was mostly a disappointment in the last years...this time I found sth nice fresh from the woodwork. Looking at the medals...what would have been the cv of this soldier? Fighting in WW 1 and in the Third Reich being a civilian "helper"? Unfortunately the Finnish Liberty Cross is missing the iddle part..but the price was good Regards Detlef

Hello, se forum "finnishawards.net" is shut down. is sis se consequence of lack of people? in fact the moderator (and owner?) of se forum was not sat nice guy at all...very strict rules and strange comments to messages... is anyone crying after sis forum? Didier

ok, sank you for se answers...I sink sey will plan sen se auction about april or may... Diedier

Hello, I heard from a medal dealer in Sweden sat se Finnish auction house called "medalhouse" was shut down beginning of sis year. Is sat true? I sought sat sere will be an auction a se beginning of April? Sanks. Dieter

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Hello, enclosed pls find some nice pictures I could catch from a German Finnish Medal Bar...what do you thin: It is lovely bar, isn't it? Does someone of you has a hint what this brave guy could have done during war 1914-1918? Bye Detlef

hey vlorenz, i am interested in the liberty cross of your father...pls pm Detlef

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Hello, as far as I am concerned , the pictured medal bar is a non combatant one, or? The ribbon of the Verdienstmedaille is surely non combatant. But also the ribbon of the Iron Cross? Or just a wrong comination. Pls look also the reverse side for your judgements. Detlef

ps: for everybody who is interested in this auction piece which I will win tomorrow: www.peege.de ==> why not to inform other collectors about next auction? ps ps: is there a section where we could start such a thread??

yeah, sorry. I did not want to reveal that I am a seer. this email is supposed to be seen / read tomorrow about 19:15 pm.

Thanx for all the answers to this Medal Bar. If sb is deeply interested in it - it is not the sales forum here - but...I am willing to let it flow away...pls pm if closers pics are needed as well as if the medal bar should find a new home. thanx.

I do not want to sell it...wrong section (I guess) Thank you...just discussion... Greetings also from Marge Simpson

unfortunately no close-ups; but description in German: 15 awards: Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse, 1870, mit silberner Blattspange 25 Jahre goldenes Kriegsverdienstkreuz vom Zähringer Löwen kleine goldene Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille Karl-Friedrich-Medaille "dem Tapferen Roth" Friedrich I. große silberne Verdienstmedaille mit Gefechtsspangen Badische Verdienstmedaille Leopold, zwei Gefechtsspangen 1870/1871 Jubiläumsmedaille Friedrich von Baden Jubiläumsabzeichen Zentenar-Medaille Medaille des Roten Adler silbernem Verdienstkreuz Sachsen silbernes Verdienstmedaille Sachsen silbernes Verdienstkreuz norwegische goldene Medaille persische goldene Medaille.

How do you like it? Fantastic and rare, especially the second medal (golden cross of merit of the Zähringer Lion) Price about 5000 e. Misiu

Thanks christerd, no match...but nice pic anyway Detlef

Maybe a short addition: I think that this company called "medalhouse" will disappear sooner or later from the dealers or auctions market respectively. No real communication, no real responsible persons who respond to questions etc. etc. Let's hope all items that have been sold now and earlier have been original and no copies. Detlef

Hello, @Ulsterman: It can be also a cross from 1918, but...is the man not too young to possess such a cross and...his uniform confuses me...? @christerd: could be a possible hint...worth to go into deepest excel sheets...Thanks Detlef

Hello, a nice picture of a soldier of the Stahhelm Bund. He is wearing a Finnish Liberty Cross, must be from 1941. The following guys have been awarded one...so the man's name should be in the list: 1. Generalleutnant Erwin Engelbrecht: 21 September 1941 2. Kapitän zur See Hans Bütow: 12 October 1941 3. Oberst Karl Seber: 23 October 1941 4. Generalmajor Erich Buschenhagen: 26 October 1941 5. Generalmajor Kurt Dittmar: 26 October 1941 6. Generalmajor Ernst Goettke: 26 October 1941 7. Generalmajor Hans Kreysing: 26 October 1941 8. Generalmajor Ernst Schlemmer: 26 October 1941 9. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Wilhelm Becker: 9 November 1941 10. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Karl-Maria Demelhuber: 1 December 1941 (His rank is listed simply as Generalmajor in the Finnish documents.) 11. Kapitän zur See Leopold Bürkner: 10 December 1941 12. Oberst Hans Piekenbrock: 10 December 1941 13. Konteradmiral Reimar von Bonin: 31 January 1942 14. Generalmajor Horst Rössing: 31 January 1942 15. Generalleutnant Rudolf Ernst Otto Gercke: 25 March 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Star and Swords on 15 July 1942.) 16. Generalmajor Adolf Heusinger: 25 March 1942 17. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Otto Hoffmann von Waldau: 25 March 1942 18. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Walter Lorenz: 25 March 1942 19. Generalmajor Bernhard von Loßberg: 25 March 1942 20. Generalmajor Gerhard Matzky: 25 March 1942 21. Vizeadmiral Hubert Schmundt: 25 March 1942 22. Generalmajor Eduard Wagner: 25 March 1942 23. Generalmajor Walter Warlimont: 25 March 1942 24. Generalarzt Dr. Kurt Bingler: 28 March 1942 25. Generalleutnant Iwan Huenert: 28 March 1942 26. Generalmajor Ferdinand Jodl: 28 March 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Oakleaf and Swords on 20 February 1944.) 27. Generalmajor Christian Philipp: 28 March 1942 28. Oberst Eduard Ausfeld: 28 April 1942 29. Generalleutnant Hermann Tittel: 7 May 1942 30. Oberst Werner Wachsmuth: 13 May 1942 (Commander of Infantry Regiment 310 of the 163rd Infantry Division; previously awarded the 2nd Class with Swords on 21 September 1941.) 31. Konteradmiral Otto Klüber: 21 May 1942 32. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Heinz-Hellmuth von Wühlisch: 21 May 1942 33. Generalmajor Rudolf Schmundt: 11 June 1942 34. SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS Felix Steiner: 16 June 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Star and Swords on 6 July 1943) 35. Generalleutnant Wilhelm Berlin: 23 August 1942 36. Oberst (Luftwaffe) Alexander Holle: 23 August 1942 37. Generalmajor Heinrich Kittel: 23 August 1942 38. Generalmajor Gerhard Medem: 23 August 1942 39. Generalmajor Wilhelm ”Willi” Raithel: 23 August 1942 40. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Peter Hansen: 29 September 1942 41. Generalmajor Fritz Thiele: 7 October 1942 42. Kapitän zur See Kurt Böhmer: 10 October 1942 43. Generalmajor Dipl. Wirtsch. Ernst Becht: 12 November 1942 44. Generalmajor Rudolf Hünermann: 12 November 1942 45. Generalmajor Otto Will: 22 January 1943 46. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Herbert Otto Gille: 6 March 1943 47. Generalleutnant Karl Allmendinger: 29 March 1943 48. Generalleutnant Hans Kratzert: 29 March 1943 49. Generalmajor Gerhard Reus: 29 March 1943 50. Generalmajor Martin Wandel: 29 March 1943 51. Generalmajor Wilhelm Wegener: 29 March 1943 52. Generalmajor Richard Bazing: 13 May 1943 53. SS-Oberführer Heinrich Gärtner: 13 May 1943 54. Generalmajor Georg Ritter von Hengl: 13 May 1943 55. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Polizei Heinrich ”Heino” Jürs: 13 May 1943 (His rank is listed simply as Generalmajor in the Finnish documents.) 56. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Matthias Kleinheisterkamp: 13 May 1943 57. Generalmajor August Krakau: 13 May 1943 58. Generalmajor Franz Rossi: 13 May 1943 59. Vizeadmiral Theodor Burchardi: 7 June 1943 60. Generalleutnant Wilhelm Haase: 7 June 1943 61. Generalmajor Paul Winter: 17 June 1943 62. Generalmajor Georg Radziej: 30 June 1943 63. Generalleutnant Kurt Weckmann: 13 August 1943 64. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Kurt Kleinrath: 24 October 1943 65. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Xaver Sattler: 24 October 1943 66. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Herbert Joachim Karl Walter Rieckhoff: 8 January 1944 67. Generalarzt Dr. Rudolf Lipf: 19 January 1944 68. Generalmajor Karl Rübel: 19 January 1944 (Previously awarded the 2nd Class with Swords on 12 December 1941.) 69. Generalmajor Hans Degen: 4 April 1944 70. Konteradmiral Heinz Nordmann: 15 April 1944 71. Konteradmiral Werner Stichling: 15 April 1944 72. Generalmajor Hero Breusing: 31 July 1944 Is somebody able to identify him? Regards Detlef

Hallo Heiko, Ja, I do have the name... My third identified Liberty Cross 1918; but my first civilian Would it be possible by having a name to reconstruct the person's cv? Detlef

Christer - that is good news if you have such a list. I can provide you the name...maybe you have possibility of research. Detlef

Thanks Tom. Doing my best...

I am totally with your explanations...I never saw a Liberty Cross 2nd class civilian on an Imperial German medal bar...this is maybe unique. The owner was a professor...could be in fact a medical one, not a "authorical" one. Detlef

Ah. Sorry for this statement. I have must mixed up. Apologizes... And Greetings from Karlsruhe to Baden Detlef