misiu

ok, sank you for se answers...I sink sey will plan sen se auction about april or may...

Diedier

Hello,

I heard from a medal dealer in Sweden sat se Finnish auction house called "medalhouse" was shut down beginning of sis year.

Is sat true? I sought sat sere will be an auction a se beginning of April?

Sanks.

Dieter

second picture

Hello,

enclosed pls find some nice pictures I could catch from a German Finnish Medal Bar...what do you thin: It is lovely bar, isn't it?

Does someone of you has a hint what this brave guy could have done during war 1914-1918?

Bye

Detlef

hey vlorenz,

i am interested in the liberty cross of your father...pls pm

Detlef

How do you view the picture? I'm sorry but I didn't see anything. My father is listed #18 on the list and I was hoping to see him.

Help? anyone?

Thanks

VL

reverse

Hello,

as far as I am concerned , the pictured medal bar is a non combatant one, or?

The ribbon of the Verdienstmedaille is surely non combatant.

But also the ribbon of the Iron Cross?

Or just a wrong comination.

Pls look also the reverse side for your judgements.

Detlef

ps: for everybody who is interested in this auction piece which I will win tomorrow:

www.peege.de

==> why not to inform other collectors about next auction?

ps ps: is there a section where we could start such a thread??

yeah, sorry. I did not want to reveal that I am a seer.

this email is supposed to be seen / read tomorrow about 19:15 pm.

Thanx for all the answers to this Medal Bar.

If sb is deeply interested in it - it is not the sales forum here - but...I am willing to let it flow away...pls pm if closers pics are needed as well as if the medal bar should find a new home. thanx.

I do not want to sell it...wrong section (I guess)

Thank you...just discussion...

Greetings also from Marge Simpson

5000 is a lot of money to pay without some decent photographs. Also, you will need to post a photograph of the back.

Thank you.

unfortunately no close-ups; but description in German:

15 awards:

Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse, 1870, mit silberner Blattspange 25 Jahre

goldenes Kriegsverdienstkreuz vom Zähringer Löwen

kleine goldene Friedrich-Verdienstmedaille

Karl-Friedrich-Medaille "dem Tapferen Roth"

Friedrich I. große silberne Verdienstmedaille mit Gefechtsspangen

Badische Verdienstmedaille Leopold, zwei Gefechtsspangen 1870/1871

Jubiläumsmedaille Friedrich von Baden

Jubiläumsabzeichen

Zentenar-Medaille

Medaille des Roten Adler

silbernem Verdienstkreuz Sachsen

silbernes Verdienstmedaille Sachsen

silbernes Verdienstkreuz

norwegische goldene Medaille

persische goldene Medaille.

How do you like it?

Fantastic and rare, especially the second medal (golden cross of merit of the Zähringer Lion)

Price about 5000 e.

Misiu

Hello,

will attend the Kassel Show 2011 on Friday, the 26th.

Will be there around 11 am.

Let us meet and drink a beer...will you?

Detlef

Thanks christerd,

no match...but nice pic anyway

Detlef

Maybe a short addition: I think that this company called "medalhouse" will disappear sooner or later from the dealers or auctions market respectively.

No real communication, no real responsible persons who respond to questions etc. etc.

Let's hope all items that have been sold now and earlier have been original and no copies.

Detlef

Hello,

@Ulsterman: It can be also a cross from 1918, but...is the man not too young to possess such a cross and...his uniform confuses me...?

@christerd: could be a possible hint...worth to go into deepest excel sheets...Thanks

Detlef

Hello,

a nice picture of a soldier of the Stahhelm Bund.

He is wearing a Finnish Liberty Cross, must be from 1941.

The following guys have been awarded one...so the man's name should be in the list:

1. Generalleutnant Erwin Engelbrecht: 21 September 1941

2. Kapitän zur See Hans Bütow: 12 October 1941

3. Oberst Karl Seber: 23 October 1941

4. Generalmajor Erich Buschenhagen: 26 October 1941

5. Generalmajor Kurt Dittmar: 26 October 1941

6. Generalmajor Ernst Goettke: 26 October 1941

7. Generalmajor Hans Kreysing: 26 October 1941

8. Generalmajor Ernst Schlemmer: 26 October 1941

9. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Wilhelm Becker: 9 November 1941

10. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Karl-Maria Demelhuber: 1 December 1941 (His rank is listed simply as Generalmajor in the Finnish documents.)

11. Kapitän zur See Leopold Bürkner: 10 December 1941

12. Oberst Hans Piekenbrock: 10 December 1941

13. Konteradmiral Reimar von Bonin: 31 January 1942

14. Generalmajor Horst Rössing: 31 January 1942

15. Generalleutnant Rudolf Ernst Otto Gercke: 25 March 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Star and Swords on 15 July 1942.)

16. Generalmajor Adolf Heusinger: 25 March 1942

17. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Otto Hoffmann von Waldau: 25 March 1942

18. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Walter Lorenz: 25 March 1942

19. Generalmajor Bernhard von Loßberg: 25 March 1942

20. Generalmajor Gerhard Matzky: 25 March 1942

21. Vizeadmiral Hubert Schmundt: 25 March 1942

22. Generalmajor Eduard Wagner: 25 March 1942

23. Generalmajor Walter Warlimont: 25 March 1942

24. Generalarzt Dr. Kurt Bingler: 28 March 1942

25. Generalleutnant Iwan Huenert: 28 March 1942

26. Generalmajor Ferdinand Jodl: 28 March 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Oakleaf and Swords on 20 February 1944.)

27. Generalmajor Christian Philipp: 28 March 1942

28. Oberst Eduard Ausfeld: 28 April 1942

29. Generalleutnant Hermann Tittel: 7 May 1942

30. Oberst Werner Wachsmuth: 13 May 1942 (Commander of Infantry Regiment 310 of the 163rd Infantry Division; previously awarded the 2nd Class with Swords on 21 September 1941.)

31. Konteradmiral Otto Klüber: 21 May 1942

32. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Heinz-Hellmuth von Wühlisch: 21 May 1942

33. Generalmajor Rudolf Schmundt: 11 June 1942

34. SS-Gruppenführer und Generalleutnant der Waffen-SS Felix Steiner: 16 June 1942 (Later awarded the 1st Class with Star and Swords on 6 July 1943)

35. Generalleutnant Wilhelm Berlin: 23 August 1942

36. Oberst (Luftwaffe) Alexander Holle: 23 August 1942

37. Generalmajor Heinrich Kittel: 23 August 1942

38. Generalmajor Gerhard Medem: 23 August 1942

39. Generalmajor Wilhelm ”Willi” Raithel: 23 August 1942

40. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Peter Hansen: 29 September 1942

41. Generalmajor Fritz Thiele: 7 October 1942

42. Kapitän zur See Kurt Böhmer: 10 October 1942

43. Generalmajor Dipl. Wirtsch. Ernst Becht: 12 November 1942

44. Generalmajor Rudolf Hünermann: 12 November 1942

45. Generalmajor Otto Will: 22 January 1943

46. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Herbert Otto Gille: 6 March 1943

47. Generalleutnant Karl Allmendinger: 29 March 1943

48. Generalleutnant Hans Kratzert: 29 March 1943

49. Generalmajor Gerhard Reus: 29 March 1943

50. Generalmajor Martin Wandel: 29 March 1943

51. Generalmajor Wilhelm Wegener: 29 March 1943

52. Generalmajor Richard Bazing: 13 May 1943

53. SS-Oberführer Heinrich Gärtner: 13 May 1943

54. Generalmajor Georg Ritter von Hengl: 13 May 1943

55. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Polizei Heinrich ”Heino” Jürs: 13 May 1943 (His rank is listed simply as Generalmajor in the Finnish documents.)

56. SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Matthias Kleinheisterkamp: 13 May 1943

57. Generalmajor August Krakau: 13 May 1943

58. Generalmajor Franz Rossi: 13 May 1943

59. Vizeadmiral Theodor Burchardi: 7 June 1943

60. Generalleutnant Wilhelm Haase: 7 June 1943

61. Generalmajor Paul Winter: 17 June 1943

62. Generalmajor Georg Radziej: 30 June 1943

63. Generalleutnant Kurt Weckmann: 13 August 1943

64. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Kurt Kleinrath: 24 October 1943

65. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Xaver Sattler: 24 October 1943

66. Generalmajor (Luftwaffe) Herbert Joachim Karl Walter Rieckhoff: 8 January 1944

67. Generalarzt Dr. Rudolf Lipf: 19 January 1944

68. Generalmajor Karl Rübel: 19 January 1944 (Previously awarded the 2nd Class with Swords on 12 December 1941.)

69. Generalmajor Hans Degen: 4 April 1944

70. Konteradmiral Heinz Nordmann: 15 April 1944

71. Konteradmiral Werner Stichling: 15 April 1944

72. Generalmajor Hero Breusing: 31 July 1944

Is somebody able to identify him?

Regards

Detlef

Hallo Heiko,

Ja, I do have the name...

My third identified Liberty Cross 1918; but my first civilian

Would it be possible by having a name to reconstruct the person's cv?

Detlef

Sorry for the late answer but I have been ill for some days....

First...great bar !!!

Claudio... of course you was dissapointed - it`s a Godet ....

Detlef , did I understand right.... do you have a name for that bar ???

Heiko

Christer - that is good news if you have such a list.

I can provide you the name...maybe you have possibility of research.

Detlef

Thanks Tom.

Doing my best...

I am totally with your explanations...I never saw a Liberty Cross 2nd class civilian on an Imperial German medal bar...this is maybe unique.

The owner was a professor...could be in fact a medical one, not a "authorical" one.

Detlef

Ah. Sorry for this statement. I have must mixed up.

Apologizes...

And Greetings from Karlsruhe to Baden

Detlef

Yes, Sascha I read about se tragic robbery of your medal bars...a real pity and sad sing.

Mark? The last time I saw that group, it belonged to Stefan.

The only Saxon unit that was in Finland were there Karabiner, whose honour chief was the grand duke of Sachsen-Weimar-Eisenach, which explains the combination of Saxon, Weimar and Finnish awards.

I used to have a ribbon bar to a Leutnant/Oberleutnant from the very same unit.

Hello,

I already posted this pic at the "Northern section", especially Finland.

But since there have been no replies till now...I think a better place to put this really nice medal bar for a closer discussion is this forum section.

I discovered this medal bar on a Finnish dealer side.

Best regards

Detlef