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I could well be wrong, but I think this is okay. I think it is a group from the NCO prep school, which would have put them at 14 years of age. Maybe 15. The helmet certainly looks like the helmet of the NCO school.

Non-commissioned Officers (NCO) came from two sources, either promoted from the ranks or having gone through the NCO training schools. Students graduated from Volksschule at approximately the age of 14. Military service would not begin until age 17 when young men could be inducted into the Landsturm. In addition to work, there was an option of joining a NCO preparatory training school (Unteroffiziervorschulen). There were nine such schools scattered throughout the empire (Annaburg, Bartenstein, Frankenstein, J?lich, M?lln, Sigmaringen, Weilburg, Wohlau, and Marienberg). The preparatory school had a general curriculum with much attention paid towards physical development throughout the two-year course. Once graduated from the preparatory school pupils could go to a NCO school (Unteroffizierschulen). There were eight of these (Marienwerder, Northeim, Potsdam, Treptow a/R, Weissenfels, Wetzlar, F?rstenfeldbr?ck, and Marienberg). The course lasted two years for preparatory school graduates or three years for those who joined the NCO school directly without having gone through the preparatory school. This was a purely military school, whose graduates were either 19 or 20 years old. Upon graduation, they had to contract to remain in the active Army for four years. Graduates were posted to the regiments with some coming out as sergeants and others as Gefreiter. These schools accounted for about 25% of all NCOs.

I still have no idea about Mister medal man!

I had no problems with this picture of a rather interesting group from an NCO training course but who/what is the guy with the medals?

Thanks Again! Glenn, have you relocated?

Actually I thought the pilots badge would create a few comments. I have a picture of the plane around somewhere.

What exactly are you looking for?

Glenn,

I really am not looking for anything, someone showed me a Beamte helmet with a Landwehr cross. I didn't like it at all and did not think there was such a thing. However, this individual insisted- repeatedly. So I just thought I would ask.

Thanks for your help!

VR/Joe

Was there ever such a thing as a Beamte der reserve? Who filled the Beamte slots in reserve units?

Thank you all for such wonderful help! I am getting more information all the time. Here are the decorations from Kurt.

Am I being thick?

I think I qualify! Certainly not being dyslexic about dates helps! Okay just to clarify there are three people. Kurt of the Garde du Corps regiment, his father of a K?rassier regiment, and Kurt - Ludwig from the Garde-K?rassier regiment. Whose relationship was???

Glenn,

I really appreciate this. I am actually in contact with the son of Kurt and I am trying to de-conflict some of the information that he has. I am a bit confused about your last two posts however. If the gentleman died Hardenberg 12 Sep 1897--how did he continue to get promoted? Am I being thick?

Well I am confused -- what else is new!

The gentleman in the first picture is identified, and there is no problem. The gentleman in the last picture is allegedly Kurt's father who was allegedly in the Garde-K?rassier Regiment. The uniform he is wearing in the picture does not support that thought , but rather that he is part of some other K?rassier regiment. Allegedly this guy's name was Georg Erdmann Karl Ferdinand. Who is who? Here is another picture of the older gentleman thought to be Georg Erdmann Karl Ferdinand.

yes that is the same guy! The last picture is of his father.

Glenn,

Please talk me through ohne Patent . I understand that seniority was adjusted for several reasons. Actually many reasons. However, how would he be commissioned without the patent? :unsure:

Glenn that is fantastic information! Do you have any data of where he came from? I know the family was from Silesia.

His father was Georg Erdmann Karl Ferdinand. Do you have any information on the medals of these two?

Thank you very much. That was perfectly useful information. There are other pictures, and I will post more soon. What I am trying to track is how this guy got his commission. Clearly, he went through several ranks, did he go to the Academy? If only there were dates on the different pictures!

Meet Kurt, Graf von Haugwitz, what can anybody tell me about him? These pictures, I believe were taken in 1914. His birthday was 1895. I think.

Another picture, but nothing on the back except the photographer Mark.

Thank you both once again!

Thank you gentlemen for your kind responses. They were certainly quick!

being commissioned directly into the Landwehr

Glenn I am a bit confused about how he did this. What was his source of commissioning? As he was an instructor did he get some sort of gong because he had an Abitur? Is it possible to tell from all of your records?

As you both know I'm not very much of a medal guy but what is that award on his left breast? Thank you both again!

Is there anyone who can tell me anything more about this Prussian Landwehr captain? Thank you in advance.

Greg I put an idea/answer on the pickelhaube forum. seems to me it is consistent with the Rheinisch infantry regiments of IX Army Corps. Therefore I would vote that it is JR 25. 25R

These books are currently unavailable, but are supposed to be reprinted at some point.

Like a year and a half ago!

That is great! I have never seen one higher than four before!

Thank You for all the information and replies! There may well have been stacks of these but I'm quite pleased to own one. I think Rick hit it on the nose the fact that these survived intact is pretty amazing. While Rick's looks more substantial mine is more like the paper that was described. Never had one before. :cheers:

Okay sports fans, I'm pretty happy with this one. The Germans sent some postcards that were made from tree bark. I am not sure what kind of tree. These were pretty brittle and not that many survived. They were self designed, and not entirely rectangular. This one is nothing special, but it is one! This is from RJR 83.