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Stogieman I have been examing this bar ! I decided to rip up red wool back abit to look at threads underneath ! all are the same but for the red cross crown order ! I believe either someone repaired ribbon to tighten it up with other thread or switched out plain 4th class crown order for red cross one ! all other threads and ribbons seem correct ! I hated to rip this open but I needed to know! now what do I do pull off red cross crown order and replace it with regular one or leave it be ????? see pic what do you think! I thought I knew my medal bars! guess i need to study up a bit more !!!!!

hello with all respect I don't believe this to be a repro!

officially hand engraved

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heres another KIA/MIA from PA. Missing in action sept 25 1944 near Casrel Del Rio Italy as member or Co H 351st IR 88th Div he was from morrisville ! his body was later recovered in oct declared dead as of sept 25 1944

back shame someone taped envolope !

Hello had this and a small messy little homemade bar !with ek2 and lion order ribbon ! sold off homemade bar but keep lion order and envolope! named to Leutnant d.res. hans Hasse in reserve infanterie regiment nr. 82 been looking for a piece of ribbon for it ! anybody know were I can get a piece of original ribbon?

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heres one I had a long time also I think my 1st medal ever bought! it has nice makers tag and has white thread on ek2 ,black on war service cross and red on red cross medal to tie them to ribbon! I think this is my favorite 1914 group! nothing to rare but I like it it nice and clean!

hello holding bar in my hands ! E2k the Ls and the 2 war medals have same thread ,the long service if you push ribbon away is wraped same as others,the 2 war medals seem to have remains of polish on medals and looks like it is on thread Thread is a black grey type! red eagle crown order and kaiser medal have diffrent thread ! the crown order has remains of grey black underneath seems someone went over it with black!seems ribbon was reinforced with other thread at one time! red eagle has white thread and kaiser thread is missing seems to have been yellow! Thread on crown order seems to be same as wrapped arounf ek2 ,ls crown order and looks to be remains of it on ribbon of red eagle order! I have owned this for many years and is how i found it ! when i got this someone had polished it a bit it has tarnished down in the yrs i have owned it! Thanks scott

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here another old bar i had for a while!

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heres one i had for a few yrs has the older type smooth armed red eagle order 4th cl.

hello guys Thanks I am not touching this I will pass!!!!!! I tend to want apiece bad!!!and i get Crazy !!!!!! yrs ago never had to worry this much about imperial bars!!!

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Brian and the rest of the members thanks I do tend to get tunnel vison ! now it gets even worse ! just got another email from dealer ! he found other medals that came with bar ! Now ! this even confuses me more ! this seems like a right medal group for this bar also so was this the original 1914 group But has meck- schwerin LS ????? Guess i should stay away!!!! should I pick it up as a ww I group thats what he original stated to me on phone it was a 1914 group and when i showed up it had the 1870 medals!!! NOW he finds other medals!!!!!! what do you think ????

Not to be a pain but I like this bar!!! I am on fence with it! ek2 seems good to me 1870 meck ? I have had 1866 and 1914 ones it is more like 1866 i had ! color and weight ? the ribbons seem real but very clean for a 1870 group ! they do have signs of wear and tear though looking under red wool they don't look messed with !ls award I am not sure of??? seems ok in person ! all the medals seem ok in person to me! but the clean ribbons bothers me a bit!!!! could this have been done more in 1920s for a vet of 1870????? guy says he backs it up it is real! for whats that is worth!!!!! I don't think he has a clue what it even is! he told me he had some ww II medals and asked me to look and this was in with a box of nazi tinnies! SO what to do??????

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more back of cross on top arm a small corner ding and almost a cut or scratch from dig across to other side !

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