Ed_Haynes

The well-worn and much-carried small certificate is easier to scan. The photo is, unfortunately, gone (but that is not terribly uncommon?).

The core material.

It is a little difficult (well, more than "a little") to scan the large certificate. Here is a piece of it.

Unfortunately, there's litte hope of any sort of research here.

While her name is considerably "Russianised", I think she is Central Asian.

Mother Heroine, var. 3, #389008.

Where???

Miguel

By researchers who have access to the Russian archives. PM me if you need the contact information.

It is most disturbing that a fellow human would murder another for a medal. One German online dealer has a site for crime and it is shocking . In the States I don't think we have that problem, perhaps the bad guys have no desire to cross oceans or face the possibility of Americans keeping guns in their homes. Under your scenario vaults are meaningless and you have a valid point. Let us hope the bad guys don't come ashore.

Well . . . after the targeted robbery that Markov suffered (no one was harmed, but was that mere luck?) . . . ????

Guns?? Ha ha ha. What a hormonal joke. Better for snuffing college students or hamburger customers.

Honestly, the historical content of this one puts any Charge of the Light Brigade group to shame. Repeat after me: "Potemkin". (Though a bit more evidence would be a nice touch, it seems kosher.) And, even though it is far outside my field, I can see that.

But, then, some would rather have 3,516 (more or less) essentially identical and totally history-free 1914 EK2s?

Whatever gets you through the night?

I think that for this price, one could buy an original collar (in gold, 2nd half 19th Century) of the Austrian Golden Fleece, and there would still remain some money in the pocket to go to the cinema...

Enzo

True. I guess.

And you could also (almost) buy a VC group (if Lord Ashcan weren't in the bidding).

So???

Much less history in the collar and the VC group would at least be named (though it too, for that much money, wouldn't have too much history connected with it).

Again, we confront the standard Western European approach -- we awarded you a nice piece of paper, now run along and buy your medal if you want one. (Good news for the jewelers and their design inventiveness.)

Not everyone awards nicely named or numbered awards.

A well-earned medal with a silly design. Can't be many remaining to get it though?

Holy Grail time.

But did he really say "Nuts!" ? I have read suggestions that the actual answer was two words, the first of which has some of the same letters as "FiretrUCK" and the second of which rhymes with "toff". The suggestion, plus the notion that the history had to be cleaned up for public consumption in 1945, struck me as very plausible. Also quite in character for a hard-charging yank officer in the circumstances and a little more forceful, shall we say, than "Nuts."

Has anyone else heard this suggestion? Of course, having read it 20+ years ago I have no recollection of the source, though I believe the author of the book had spoken to survivors of Bastogne, possibly even the author of the famed remark. Comments?

Peter

I have heard the same thing, including in stories recounted by a family friend who was there. But once a myth gets established, especially a "clean" myth, . . . .

If it's Imperial Germany only, then the choice is easy since this is the only group I have with Imperial German stuff

/Mike

Despite the imperial German stuff, that is one lovely bar, Mike!

I might be wrong, and that's why I would appreciate other members opinions (including Lapa), but to me, it seems there was a number "6" at the right of current serial number. First photo is the one that was posted here, second is the same photo in negative colors.

Does it look like a 6 or I am being paranoid?

Good eyes. To me, that does look . . . well . . . troublesome (or worse).

I begin a new topic : please show your favorite order or medal of your collection !

Thanks !

Just imperial German?

Oh.

OK (not the world's best image, sorry):

Nice eye-candy. Thanks, Kevin!

Yummy, nice

A number of these are already here. Look in other threads.

However you wish the truth to be, Christophe. He was president nevertheless.

Well, I'd have said:

15 Mar 1990 - 25 Dec 1991 - Mikhail Gorbachev

19 Aug 1991 - 21 Aug 1991 - Gennady Yanayev

See: http://rulers.org/rulqr.html#russia

These high numbers were probably non-awarded examples, but we will know sure once research is available.

Possibly, but it is stil being awarded.

PM sent as we normally don't name him in public - who knows who is watching.

Depending on the government's mood at any moment, such research may or may not be OK.

Thanks. That sets the new upper limit for type 2 (and makes the nasty-brassy ones seem even more illegitimate).

I received quite a lot of research results over the last couple of months, the last batch two weeks ago. I'm not experiencing any slowing down at all

Glad someone is having luck -- I am having ZERO (even response).

And a major recent (~ $500) melt-down in research.

Yes, the Glory can certainly be researched, if

1- you are willing to pay for it and

2- it ever comes in (no luck, no charge) - reasearch has gotten VERY sporadic these day (I hope this means nothing in cosmic terms?).

Interesting, William. #2082 is way (WAY) beyond the maximum recorded for a normal silver pinback (which is #2006), and well into the range for what I think is a fraudulently named nasty-brassy Sukhbaatar (the only one recorded is #2057, which I doubt). I'd want a close sniff at that one . . . .

Any idea what the #2082 was???