Ed_Haynes

Without any images it is hard to comment . . . .

None were made in Kuwait. The medal was out-sourced (as were and are most things in Kuwait) to Italian and British makers. Those made in the US are quite unofficial.

While the US was one of the few foreign participants to allow the wearing of the medal, it was also among the few to blissfully ignore the multi-class structure of the award and force all recipients to accept the lowest class.

I did a short piece in JOMSA on these some time back.

I will ask Battushig if he minds me stealing his image and posting it here.

To me, it is a pretty ugly thing.

The order is covered in Battushig's book. To date, it has been awarded only twice in first class; the second and third classes have been authorised, but have neither been maunfactured nor awarded.

That raises the awkward question of what do you do if find an item in your collection that is stolen

Order of Victory

Await the KGB? Oh, FSB, same-same. (Actually, worse.)

Ed

I under stand what you are saying, I put it here for the U.S military being awarded the Medals: not what country that awarded it.

To me that is part of the U.S military history:

SSG Luna, Lorenzo

Should we then add it to all the other countries that participated in that conflict? In the multiple classes in which it was awarded (that the US did not allow to be accepted)? However most countries did not allow the medal (or the Saudi, or Bahraini, or Emirati medals to be worn).

Please do rememeber that this is an INTERNATIONAL forum, and one must strive to think internationally and outside one's own narrow partiotic life experience.

ED

Well you need to tell the U.S Government that. I bought this at the clothing and sales on post: Near the dress blue section. All the senior NCO's wear it on their ribbon bar, that fought in the Gulf War.

ED, whats with you always cracking on my posts????????

Happy New Year

SSG Luna, Lorenzo

It is a Kuwaiti award, given to all participants in Gulf War II. The US government knows that.

This is, of course, a Kuwaiti award (and not a US one). It is discussed in some detail over at

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14642

Unfortunately, I don't have the power to merge this mis-posting into that thread.

Rick is right about the missing clasp, but unattributable miniature bars that can easily be made up are hard to deal with. Could be anyone's bar, any rank, almost any regiment (though Africa/Burma is not a super-common combination).

On what basis was this claimed as a Gold Star Hero of Labor recipient partial group?

Service record (translated section, original not posted).

A very nice SMERSH result. A shame the group is so badly broken.

Another good reason (as if we need MORE) why people should post normal on-site images?

Thank you for helping to preserve these, Richard! History is saved.

Nice. Though the white ants have dined well.

Very similar to mine to a fairly senior Tunisian.

See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=19819

I'd agree that your fellow was probably from the DDR.

I just looked again. Do you have his Raksha Medal too?? Even nicer. What else??

I was just going to check him as a possible 1962 casualty, but with a Raksha Medal . . . not needed.

Most colonies' uniforms are patterned after the ruler's, both before and after independence.

Let me ask Those Who Know . . .

Some nice document groups there Bob!!

Makes me homesick for UB (but too damned cold there just now!).

You do have to be careful with Solzhenitsyn as he is, after all, a novelist and not a historian. His religious and essentially "tsarist" biases also have to be taken into account.

Still, a fine enough novel (not up to the standard of Bulgakov's The Master and Margarita), but NOT history.

But this is ???

A pretty uncommon clasp, for some very nasty service. Next to Korea, the most uncommon, and very nice to a JCO.

The Army List will list all officers (Lieutenant+) and some army lists (not as many as we'd like) would list the junior commissioned officer ranks (Jemadar, Subadar, Subadar-Major -- to simplify). AEC tended to be everywhere, doing whatever educational good workls they do.

A very nice one indeed.

A nice medal. The General Service Medal, 1947.

Rank is Subadar (!). Research is possible, but the requisite Army Lists are in New Delhi and I'm not.

Unit is the Army Educational Corps.

The Ladakh clasp is scarce and desirable for some very nasty service (but as AEC?!) in the 1962 Sino-Indian war.

Lovely it just SCREAMS "history". A shame these recommendations are so brief, makes you wonder what teh full take was.

Thanks.

Excellent!

Reminds us that killing Hitlerites wasn't just about guns.

It is always fascinating to unravel the history that lies in these things. Thanks!!

MMM:

DECREE

OF THE USSR SUPREME COUNCIL PRESIDIUM

On awarding generals, officers, and sergeants of an additional service with orders and medals for a long service in the Soviet Army

For a long and blameless service in the Soviet Army award with:

MILITARY MERITS MEDAL

4117. Major REZNIKOV ILYA GRIGORYEVICH

Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme

Council of the USSR N.SHVERNIK

Secretary of the Presidium of the Supreme

Council of the USSR (signed) A. Gorkin

Moscow, the Kremlin, November 15, 1950

Personal file No 191

(signed)