Ed_Haynes

Not quite my image of what happened to POWs upon "liberation". (Thank you Al -- not Jon -- Stewart!)

Thouigh there does seem to be a ten-year "gap"?

Other wisdom, please . . . ???

The "core" of the recommendation has been translated.

. . . and.

And the recommendation gets reshaped by the bosses . . .

Part 2.

Glory recommendation (though not originally a Glory!), part 1.

Reverse.

The Glory was a late 1958 award with no noted companions.

Details untranslated

Undocumented, but researched. Though the research is only incompletely translated.

Record card 1.

Private Nikolai Gavrilovich Zherebtsov, 100th Cavalry Regiment

Just a single Glory III, #710249

Many thanks for any fleshing-out and hole-filling that the Wise Ones can add.

The translated recommendation:

And.

But, first, let's get it moved up the chain of command:

The interesting stuff, part 2.

(And don't worry, this recommendation is translated!)

Where are his bravery medals?? #s 2361901 and 2209460????

Glory III recommendation, part 1.

And even though untranslated, it is obvious much is missing.

The reverse:

No document, but researched (and partially translated).

The awards record card, obverse.

Guards Junior Sergeant Mikhail Petrovich Smadik, 22nd Guards Cavalry Regiment, 5th Guards Cavalry Division

"Just" a single Glory III, rather worn, #336919.

We needed nearly a Year to find out.

Hope it won't take us that long to answer this question.

There already is a topic about the belt in 'Wanted Items':

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=23681

Thanks. Though why you'd want to waste a Mongolian belt on a Soviet tunic, . . . ????

Fair points Dave.

Altered the title and am shifting the thread to a Soviet forum.

(Although maybe a shift to "Want to Buy" would have been better?)

Then should this be moved into the "items wanted" category?

If need be, I shall try to go into this in detail but:

-- This is NOT -- as I am told -- a Soviet uniform, it is said to be a Mongolian uniform, and should not have all these foreign Soviet awards, mounted Soviet style. It seems (from the description, catagory placement, and tiny-small off-forum virus-infested images) to be a Mongolian uniform.

-- Such profligate Soviet awards would not have been given to a Mongolian. It is another country. Soviet awards to Mongols are uncommon. And where are the Mongolian awards?? The collections of awards here are, freankly, laughable for any Mongolian. Even a Buriyat! And the addition of these lunatic-fantasy awards has obliterated the tunic's reclaimable history.

-- This mounting style and awards arrangmentwould have been as used by Mongolia (see multiple images in this sub-forum, please), not by the CCCP.

-- Any hypothetical belt would normally have been of the Mongolian style, not the Soviet. But this is the least of the issues.

Maybe better images, posted normally, would help?

Am I missing something here?!?!?!?!

What's the concern? Do you have his medals? He'd only have been able to wear this doo-dad (which he probably never did anyway as I suspect he never got unrestricted wearing permission) for another ten years.

There is probably a file in the National Archives (PRO) regarding his award and whether he was ever given permission to wear this continental trinket, but this will require doing real research.

Simply for display, if you must have full-size, Michael's suggestion is fine. A miniature group would also be a good commemorative display. Making the fakers and other makers of garbage rich(er) seems to me a bad idea although, happily, the IDSM is still a fake-free zone, so far as I know.

Determining his entitlemenet will, of course, not be easy. More an exercise in fiction than in history? I have outlined elsewhere what I have been able (so far) to find of his career and we are looking (at least) at: IDSM; 1914-15 Star; BWM; Victory with MiD.