Ed_Haynes

How to force a trifold into a completely anachronistic court mount. (Even if it meant chopping off the crown?)

(And when did court mounts become so common? It used to be you would mount your medals in that fashion only if -- where do you think the name came from -- you have some court involvement. A post-1960s craze, taken up by the collecting mob? It is a pretty mounting style, though.)

While not Commonwealth, a very rational and respectful way to deal with trifold ribbons.

I sincerely doubt one of those Commonwealth types who still, somehow, need QEII's premission to wear foreign medals would ever receive it for a medal like this anyway.

Which "Commonwealth Officer" (or NCO/OR for that matter) would . . .

-- have been awarded this medal -- quasi-official at best? -- or are we assuming a hypothetical legitate Hungarian recipient who emigrated to Bristol and then would get something Brit decades in the future?

-- force it screaming and kicking into an alien UK-style mount or challenge his mounting shop to do it right (as did many WWI, WWII, and even later recipients of Russian, Serbian, Soviet, etc. awards)?

But if we're talking about some self-awarding Walter Mitty . . .

True. There are not a lot of those out and about. (Unless it "went East", out of view.)

But why in the world would you wish to (British) court mount a medal that would NEVER be worn that way? I am very confused.

Very sorry to hear this. After I endured a couple of similar experiences, I have given up eBay as a bad idea, empowering folks like this dealer.

It is my understanding (from Afghan friends in Kabul) that it was to be an Afghan award, but when the major body of potential recipients were to be disallowed to accept it, they dropped the idea. It probably would have cost too much anyway.

It has now been "adopted" by several US-based medal manufacturers, so it is slipping down into the sewer of the commemoratives.

It would ge great, someday, to lay hands on the relevant Afghan and US sources and disentangle the tale. Unlikely, but great.

Unsustainable, in my evaluation. ANY Current items-- really CURRENT items are always the hardest to get accurate information on and of course remain in the hands of living recipients rather than passing to collectors--unless unissued bulk stock sorts of items.

Actually, being a prehistoric beast, I can't think of ANYTHING current that I am interested in, what with my gaze firmly fixed on the fading Golden Bygone Epoch.

Contrary to Pavlovian assertions of Teutophilia, Nick has always been splendid in creating and encouraging ANY area of interest that can breathe unassisted. And in every single case, back to the days when this website had TWO Areas (British and Everything Else), was entirely in black and white, and only operated when its server's solar panel at Chipping Ongar was in full direct sunlight (exclusive of bank holidays)

the essential to ADDING new sections is consistently simple:

posting activity.

No section is whistled up out of nothing in the expectation that it WILL be active.

ACTIVITY demonstrates that a section is needed and will continue to be active.

In this case, I don't see either pre-condition applying at all.

So while DELIGHTED to see anything from the new Federation (being an Obscure Data slut) there is not the activity or the community of active collectors NOW to justify this.

BUILD IT and it will come into existence.

Focusing on just one issue:

There is, at present, simply no logically coherent place to post such information. It fits in no existing category. None.

Like Mongolia (before Battushig and our forum -- dating the first Mongolian post in September 2005 and a forum in January 2006), information is thin on the ground. Fran?ois has done some important work in moving us all (himself included) toward some understanding is significant. This is a chance for this foprum to (again) be on the cutting edge. But, for some, their mothers told them never to be on the cutting edge?

To up-end Rick's metaphor: Give us a place to play and watch the information flow. Waiting for that information to be scattered abouty in the several fora that could host it seems to be guaranteed to bring incoherence and, frankly, to keep the emerging Russian Federation information off this forum and only over at the OMSA forum (where it isn't entirely welcomed). I see that as unfortunate.

If the activity over at the OMSA sub-forum (which I'm sure all of you visit) is any guide, I think Rick's worries can be put to rest: 35 threads and 368 posts since inception in November 2008. Plus, there are also just over 200 relevant items shown in the database. By the chatty standards or some of our fora that may not seem like much, but the OMSA forum is not as active as this one.

Even the Soviet awards forum has their section (79 threads, 1273 posts), but their approach differs from ours.

As you might guess, I think such a sub-forum would be a positive thing for the GMIC forum. But if the management says "No", so be it. Maybe if we gave Rick a modern Russian ribbon bar . . . ???

Learning new things, outside (WAY outside?) our "collecting comfort zone" is one of the virtues of the forum, after all?

At least I hope it is??

A suggestion has been advanced for a separate sub-forum on post-Soviet Russian awards.

See http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3458...mp;#entry325956

A suggestion has been advanced for a separate sub-forum on post-Soviet Russian awards.

See http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3458...mp;#entry325956

A suggestion has been advanced for a separate sub-forum on post-Soviet Russian awards.

See http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3458...mp;#entry325956

I assumed Jason wasn't scanning his, so the chances for image deviance have been maximised?

Personally, I'd trust Chris 150%

Solid source usually means a solid medal. And if it isn't, a good source will take it back.

BUT "they" said "they" got it from him . . . why not just buy from Dixon??

Yes. Just to make you feel bad , my GV cased MC specimen (purchased from Spink) was a whopping $40 (US) back in the day . . . .

From a good source? A known dealer or some eBay scam-artist?

Never having seen a single one in my area of interest, So I'm not of much help . . . but, in my area, they'd (presumably?) be named.

There is, alas, limited active forum interest these sad days in anything non-Teutonic. Sad. Quite sad.

Some have actually deluded themselves into thinking that that narrow area is the "majority" of the "hobby". And often pigs fly? (When we aren't watching closely?)

Some of us try to stengthen the forum with items from the "non-dark side of the force", but . . . may I show you my scars??? Even the researchable Soviet stuff is pretty flat-lined of late.

Very frustrating indeed . . .

Most GMIC denizens, sadly, don't care at all if it isn't German, and if it has a swastika they get even more joyfully engorged.

Welcome to the GMIC.

At least you won't get the abuse that lurks elsewhere?

They are pretty things. A shame that (like the DSO) they aren't named.

And, absent SOLID provenence, most of those MCs you see "named" are, I suspect, later inventions by silly collector sorts.

True. But the naming (seen on both the MC and DSO, by the way) has often been added later. Maybe by the recipient, maybe by far less worthy greedy folks .....

They are pretty things. A shame that (like the MC) they aren't named.

Very interesting! (Duplicates????)

And an interesting mix of Egyptian (+UAR) and Sudanese items, at least one, maybe more.

Not really Soviet. More fascist collaborator stuff?

Thanks for shaiing this lovely site!

Hi Hendrik and KVDR

Sometimes the cypher on the Nichan Iftikhar provides some important vision trouble... as far as they can be engraved with much fantasy. But this is the charm of this kind of medal. I like them !

It looks like a Mohammed Al Habib cypher, but it could also be Mohammed Al Amin 1942-1947, may be, may be http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_03_2009/post-2068-1236460723.gif. But I believe it is, because of the recent aspect of this medal and of the ribbon.

Yours seems to be a local manufactured decoration. Sometimes, we can find a tunisian mark on the reverse which is a grape.

Regards

Bison

When they are French- (or European-) made, the cypher can be utter rubbish indeed. Tunisian-made examples usually get it right (since they weren't illiterates).

An interesting TUNISIAN award.