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And, finally.

Bad lighting, but I like the image.

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Let me add some images from summer 2006.

Actually, the order is correct. The "Palestine" clasp is for pre-war service. Post-war service is the "Palestine 1945-48" clasp.

So Reserve OFFICER instructors are... civilians and not detached/(semi)retired armed forces personnel?

Think (in US terms): ROTC/JROTC?

There have been a number of very good, very well-researched, articles on this topic on the OMRS journal.

Sometimes, you just gotta READ.

well, once again I learn something new! Having just perused the National CC's website (see above picture, which i borrowed/pilfered therefrom, in the name of academic illustration) the NCCC is a HUGE body! I just sent an email to the website adviser, a Lt. Col., with a link to this subject and perhaps he can answer our question regarding what rank/position she held? Perhaps you have the model turned actress.... !

Haved asked fairly senior friends in the MoD but they don't understand the NCC (either).

And, yes, they are quite shameless (and laughable) at Republic Day.

'Soviet" obviously didn't go in, as the same home and garden exhibit sill seems underway (as it was when I was there in summer '06), with all the space stuff gone to foreign and domestic capitalists. Nice space shuttle pub near Gorky Park, though.

The ghosts of the Soviet space program are there (as they are throughout the bleaching bones of the sad VDNKh site), maybe, but the vampires of crass multinational consumer capitalism have driven then away and sucked them quote dry.

I do think the victory is "Soviet"'s though.

well a quick google check shows an economic ambassador to Cologne, a model turned actress, a barrister, a well reputed MD and another medical scientist (the latter four all females).

Hmmmmm....

a good deal is...a good deal! Congratulations.

The name is sufficiently common so as not to allow much research (I know four Kiran Malhotras in Delhi without thinking too much about it), still . . . any medal to a woman!

OK- I'll bite-why is "Mrs." the nomenclature for a fake?

Many of the Indians I know all use English patois from the 1920-40s so this would be technically correct, albeit stuffy, for a married female cadet corps matron?

Are there no Indian female cadet corps officers?

No not NOT a fake. Just a good deal.

As a "faculty" member it would be the gora "Mrs." rather than the legitimate "Srimati" ("Smt.").

Who knows who she is/was.

Ah . . . but the VDNKh Space Pavillion has been emptied, all has been sold. The question is invalid!

Shall dig out some photos and add.

A nice place, but too close to that Peter Monstrosity (who moved the capital OUT OF Moscow after all!).

These are for university-level faculty-officers ("F-O") who serve as NCC instructors (think: civilian ROTC instructors?). The NCC is complex and messy, worse than ROTC. Now need to find out how to translate "NCCJ-GD".

There's also a 14-year NCC gong.

This may be obvious, but have you tried Arthus Bertrand, Rue de Rennes, Paris?

Have they EVER responded to communication from ANYONE (even in FRENCH?)?

Ohhhh . . . I think I know this . . . I think I know this . . .

OK, they almost always win. Almost always.

A simple National Cadet Corps seven year service medal. Rs. 200 (=~ US $5).

Naming?

"NCCJ-GD-12110 F-O. MRS. KIRAN MALHOTRA, NCC".

Mrs. Mrs. Mrs!

Tee hee.

Thanks. Maybe these links ought to be copied up into something pinned? Hint, hint to the Central Committee Comrades??

As Jeff says, this is exactly the way you expect to see WWII British (term used specificlly) groups. The total lack of naming (done not for reasons of costs as some have argued, but rather for speed in issuing medals) produces massive problems and limited research potential. Even when you have a group that comes with documents and other paperwork, you can't ever be 100% certain that these are this person's medals unless you have an iron-clad provennce (and by this I mean personal knowledge of the chain of custody from the recipient to yourself and not some tall tale concocted by a dealer). This means that WWII British awards are, uncharacteristically, more like German or other Continental awards than like normally named British awards: Unnamed assemblages of medals that are not really much more than a sum of the parts, something could so easily have been invented (and so often are invented). Even the presence of one or two named medals doesn't help much, for there is always the danger of later accretions to the 'group'.

Very frustrating for research!

I have had very good luck (and shall soon be sharing this good luck on this sub-forum) with Singidunum Online.

http://www.singidunum-online.com/shope/ind...tegory_secID=36

Marko is a great guy and very easy to deal with. He may not live 24/7 online the way we do, but he has been a great help.

I had forgotten, but he had helped me out way back in the days of the Internatioonal Electronic Phaleristic Encyclopedia (before it got trashed by vandals in the post-11 Sep outbreak of US patriotism) -- and if you can recember the IEPE, you have clearly been doing this TOO LONG!

Thanks Dave. Mongolia seems to have warned to peacekeeping, though with shrinking size of overall military force, it happens as small-to-microscopic units.

Mongolian forces in ... Sierra Leone!!!!

Possibly, but his medal is for Liberia (UNMIL -- http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/medals/unmil.htm -- where no Mongolian forces are shown), not Sierra Leone (UNOMSIL/UNAMSIL -- http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/medals/unomsil.htm -- where no Mongolian forces are shown either).

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