Ed_Haynes

For a thread on the Hungarian Zalka M?t? Commemorative Medal 1956, see: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=19808

Just in. And I am very happy (in part because just 174 were awarded). But -- as Charles has told me-- this one is even more interesting. And I'd rather he explain what he has learned.

Over to you Charles . . . .

But, first, the eye-candy:

And the document.

Buried in the mega-thread at

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11559&st=149

and since I just got a cased and documented specimen I thought these deserved their own thread.

As is said at the above-referenced post:

Hungarian Trade Council's Union Medal for service to the Trade Union in Gold. Most of the gold wash to the star has flaked off but it is still present on the miniature. The badge came in two grades Gold and Silver. Gold was for 15 years of serivce in SZOT (HU Trade Councils Union) and the Silver is 10 years. The 15 year award came with 3000 HU forints bonus (1 1/2 months pay) and the silver came with 2000 HU forints.

And the pretty one, in gold:

And document.

Worker's Militia medal "for faithful service of the homeland and people", cased.

And (though it has had a hard life) the document.

Mine, bronze.

Thanks, Oh Person of Great Power!

And a separate card.

You do have to wonder who he was and what his Germanic-sounding name was.

And documented (just the 'core' page).

With ribbon bar -- pretty little thing that it is!

Just in hand, a nice cased (though the case has had a hard life) bronze medal with ribbon bar.

Though the WWII medals are all unnamed it is still a pretty group, I think.

7341 Havildar Chain Singh, Machine Gun Battalion,Dogra Regiment

1- Independence Medal - unnamed

2- IGS 1936 - "7341 SEPOY CHAIN SINGH,1-17 DOGRA R."

3- 1939-45 Star - unnamed

4- Burma Star - unnamed

5- War Medal1939-45 - unnamed

6- India Service Medal - unnamed

7- General Service Medal S-E Asia 1945-46 -"7341 HAV.CHAIN SINGH, M.G.BN.,DOGRA R."

And -- brave (?) man that he was -- he wore the Rai Bahadur on his ribbon bars, both pre- and post-Independence, and with his Coronation Medal in an odd place.

OK, some of you know how I feel about the Indian Police. Then or now. But, for some strange cosmic reason nice police groups contiune to seek me out. The latest, as received (though mostly cased).

Bakshi Badri Nath, I.P.S., Assistant Dir. S.I.B., Amritsar

1- President's Police and Fire Services Medal for Distinguished Service - "Bakshi Badri Nath, I.P.S., Assistant Dir. S.I.B., Amritsar"

2- Independence Medal 1950

3- King's Police Medal for Distinguished Service - "RAI BAHADUR BADRI NATH SUPDT. OF POLICE, C.I.D. (OFFG.), PUNJAB" - London Gazette,1 January 1948, one of those rare post-Independence "Dominion"awards of the KPM (and,note, it is still the "INDIAE IMP" variety even though those weren't the king's titles then!)

4- George VI Rai Bahadur - "Mr. Bakshi Badri Nath, 1st Jany. 1942" - The recommendation remains elusive suggesting it was a politically "loaded" one. (And he wears this out of order, after the KPM, so I keep it there.)

5- British War Medal- unnamed

6- War Medal 1939-45 - unnamed

7- George VI Coronation Medal

Much research remains . . . .

MC in London Gazette, 6 June 1946, as "Subadar MEHAR CHAND (8761. IO), 17th Dogra Regiment, Indian Army."

His recommendation:

While:

1- The medals are naked and unbathed.

2- I feel with almost 100% certainty that the WWII medals (unnamed) are restorations.

This is still a nice group and is, I think, his legitimate full qualification.

IO 8761 Subadar Mehar Chand, M.C., 4/17th Dogra Regiment

1- Military Cross, George VI, dated 1946

2- IGS 1908, NWF 1930-31, "4867 SEP. MEHAR CHAND, 3-17 DOGRA R."

3- IGS 1936, NWF 1937-39, "4867 HAV. MEHAR CHAND, 3-17 DOGRA R."

4- 1939-45 Star unnamed

5- Burma Star unnamed

6- War Medal 1939-45 unnamed

IAL October 1944:

Born 2 Feb.1929

Jemadar 25 January 1940

War-substantative Subadar

Qualified instrustor, driving and maintenance

Indian Army English 2nd class

Qualifiedin smallarms

Instructor in Army signaling

Instructor in Army signaling (special)

And, while not the world's best scanned photo, here is is. Getting better image.

V-75 Colonel Karam Singh, Staff (Remount Veterinary Corps)

born 18 January 1918

WWII (?) entered service, rising to Risaldar (V-673)

2nd Lt (Emergency) - 13 March 1944 (VL-198)

W. S. Captain - 13 November 1946

September 1952 - Veterinary Officer of a Division

November 1957 - Veterinary Officer, Mill Farm, Kanpur

early 1960s (?) transferred to regular commission (V-75)

Still serving 1972

The group:

1- Samar Seva Star - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH, STAFF.

2- Raksha Medal 1965 - V-75 A-COL. KARAM SINGH, STAFF.

3- Sangram Medal, 1971 - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.

4- Sainya Seva, J&K - V-75 MAJ. KARAM SINGH, R.V.C.

5- Independence Medal 1947 - ribbon only

6- 25th Independence Anniversary Medal - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.

7- 20 Year - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.

8- 9 Year - V-75 COL. KARAM SINGH.

9- 1939-45 Star - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C.

10- Burma Star - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C.

11- WWII War Medal - V-673 RISALDAR KARAM SINGH, R.V.F.C.

Just got an interesting e-mail from one of the major Ulanbaatar dealers, well known to many of us. He was planning to attend the OMSA meetings in August. But his ability to attend was going to be contingent on his finding enough high-end items to sell at the OMSA to cover his costs. He was not able to find these items and so will not be attending. Thus, the pipeline is dry or nearly so?

Word on research will change things, but until then I fear the deafening silence on this sub-forum reflects the state of the larger game.

Ed,

Ilya Grigoryevich REZNIKOV.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Thanks, "Slava1".

Two.

Two more.

One.

Love the glory groups. If you knew who the researcher was? Would there be a chance he could have a copy of the research saved? Pete

I think I know who did the research and I have asked him. I also expect to see him in August.

I have hopes also that the dealer can untangle his records and dig out the research he summarised.