Ed_Haynes

Closeup on suspension area of a type 1 (left) and type 2 (right badge, though with a very naughty serial number) specimen.

Weights (whole thing, screwpost and all):

T 1 - 41.35 g (# 52, 1962) and 41.25g (# 79, 1966)

T 2 - 29.95 g (faked number but a good badge -- bummer -- cheap, though)

This award is definitely was taken apart for gold.

. . . and platinum. Even worse?

But it does send the (sad) message that these are now being seen as commodities, fit only for disassembly for raw materials and resale as leftover spare parts. I saw 4 or 5 such mangled SBs in UB.

Most importantly will be to send out the plea here. Though I suspect his is (was ) in DDR. Fate unknown.

Quite nice, let me look. To help me in my illiterate idiocy, do you have the name in Cyrillic, to aid me in my search?

Yes, fascinating new things (that send me off to my map). Many thanks!

I am astonished! FANTASTIC information my friends!

All from an overlooked scratched out entry in an award roll.

Every scratch-out has a story??

Ain't research a drag? NOT!!

Well done, Dave!

Even though these "Home of Heroes" were the ones behind the whole "Stolen Valor" monstrosity, their site is still a usefuil resource.

Wow! One more thing that I see on this forum that I never expected to see ANYWHERE!

While I can't, and won't, dismiss this one as easily and glibly as some seem to be able to, I do see some issues for concern. But I need to have a real one in hand for comparison, something I shall do when possible.

I also need to check my notes and see if I jotted down the numbers on the fake ones I saw in UB. Somehow, this number seems ominously familiar.

There are some very dangerous fakes of this award out there, especially dangerous if all one has to work with is a scan. In hand, the message is clear.

Welcome aboard. If you look around, I think you'll find focused threads on most of the lovely items in your impressive collection.

Arizona must be somewhere near the end of the earth. I still haven't received my OMSA journal yet but it looks like everyone else has.

Howdy to everyone - long time no see!

Doug

Their distribution is very very sloppy, randomly bizarre.

Ed-

Good catch! Figure 2 was not supposed to be referenced in the text - I don't know how it made it in there to begin with! Oy! Ah well... I think folks can figure it out. Still a pretty good article in "original" territory if I might say so.....

Dave

Yes, Dave, an EXTREMELY good article despite this. The last piece I published in JOMSA suffered from severe late editing, after I'd seen the final proofs, which rendered parts of the piece gibberish. The editing needs to be more professional.

Add to the tears the fact that it is the lowest-reported pinback SB number.

The etail at the bottom of the piece, signifying the triumph of good over evil preumably

Well . . . of Europeans over China. Depends who "good" and "evil" are in that interaction?

Have seen BWM ribbons similarly faded.

Yeah, saw this sad one in UB.

Yet it seems they were worn this (wrong) way. Leave it alone?

Then the man in my photo is wearing an MBE perhaps?

OBE or MBE, hard to tell. One would need to check the records (and most of these honorary awards in WWII were not gazetted).

The one the man in my photo is wearing does not seem like it has any type of enamel... Or am I missing something?

GBE (sash badge and breast star), KBE (neck badge and breast star), and CBE (neck badge) have enamel, the OBE is gilt, the MBE is silver. Both the OBE and MBE are breast badges. The military ribbon has a central stripe, the civil ribbon does not.

The Soviets habitually wore these awards wrong, often hilariously wrong. Much as the British would mount an OPW on a medal bar.

Is that clear??

Though I found it absolutely amazing that, despite what the text says, they show the picture of Koldunov rather than Kravchenko. A serious editing problem, Dave??

See: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207&hl=kravchenko

Since I have Kravchenko's group (but not, alas, Koldunov's!), here is Kravchenko (before he got his "crab").

Thanks for this!

Jan beat me to it. Now, it would be interesting to see what sort of formal visit took place on 17 Junr 1982.

Nice 'un! Welcome to the marvelous world of Mongolia!!

Yes, that too!

And, as we have said repeatedly, we need to be careful about our nomenclature: GBE, KBE, CBE, OME, MBE.

See Megan's site: http://www.medals.org.uk/united-kingdom/un...-kingdom025.htm

Lovely lovely piece (my copy FINALLY came)!!