Ed_Haynes

Oh yessss!!

I was struck by how popular sumo seems to be on Mongolian TV, it is seen as similar enough to Mongolian wrestling to hold some viewer interest.

Interesting question.

How does one evaluate specimens of a unique piece that is seen all the time?

A North Korean badge for North Korean-Mongolian friendship.

Also posted over in the Mongolian forum: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=10220&st=80

Not really Mongolian, but a North Korean badge for North Korean-Mongolian friendship.

Also posted over in the North Korean thread: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=845&st=81

W NIB 15 -- Bayan-Uglii Aimag Spartikad, 1960

An odd, exotic, and strangely designed (medal-style) badge for the 1960 aimag spartakad in the far, far west. Including exotic sports it seems, including a Mongolian equivalent of the Afghan buzkashi.

W NIB 15 -- Meritorious Sport Trainer

An earlier variant of W 02?

N NIB 03 -- Meritorious Construction Worker

An apparently earlier variant of N 01?

The pin fixing of 'coiled wire' with presumably a copper base points to the new Chinese fake industry.

Look on ebaY and you'll find orders of the patriotic war like this.

Interestingly, a large number of quite authentic early Mongolian awards have this construction, so it may not be as absolute as BR wants it to sound.

A really good question. Quality won't be cheap, but will be worth it.

I have used http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/

Nice! And another of those odd and interesting groups without a 1939-45 Star. Can a closeup on the picture enlighten us here?

Yes, Dave, whether official, semi-official, unofficial, we may never know, but it "is" and is worn. But it isn't "Polish". I suspect my Mongolian chap got his ribbon reversed, as there is pretty good evidence for it being red-white-black (and that would make more sense than the other way around).

Thanks for taking the trouble to do these, William. A NICE uniform. It tempts me into things that have even WORSE storage issues!!

The ribbon bar?

1- ???, ???, Medal "We won"

2- Soviet Victory over Japan, 40 Years of MPR, 30th Anniversary of Victory over Japan

3- 60 Years of MPR

Those first two ribbons are most bizarre. Possibly Honorary Medal of Labor? If the center stripe is in any way red, maybe 25 Years of MPR (but why two of them?).

Cap roundel, 1960-92.

Mongolia.

See also: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=16218

What has been called a "Polish" medal isn't (legend in English, after all). It is the Multinational Division Central South unofficial award.

Could we see a close-up on the ribbon bar and shoulder boards, please. Thanks.

Congratulations (and thanks, Nick). Glad to see this section!

Interesting idea, cross fingers, . . . .

Oh . . . pretty

While, for that much money, it would be nice to have some provenance, this might well (?) be how the recipient wore them (but . . . ??).

Lovely stuff, Doc. Keep 'em coming!!

Nice stamps OoV, and a big on reaching 1K!! Keep up the good work and fine contributions to our community.

Birth Anniversary of the General D. Sukhbaatar

UB Post, Thursday, 8 February 2007

By M. Bayarmaa

On the occasion of the 114th year anniversary of birth of the great general, military leader D. Sukhbaatar, a ceremony to lay a wreath at the memorial monument for the general was held on February 2 in Sukhbaatar Square.

In the ceremony, members of the Governing Council, such as: M. Enkhbold, Prime Minister of Mongolia and Chairman of the Mongolian People?s Revolutionary Party (MPRP), Yo. Otgonbayar, Secretary of the MPRP, M. Sonompil, the Minister of Defense, Deputy Minister B. Erdenebat, UB Mayor, B. Batbayar, his entourage, researchers of Sukhbaatar?s life?s and Children?s Organization Collectives named after him participated.

D. Sukhbaatar was the leader of the People?s Revolution in Mongolia and also the founder of the MPRP.

The Manchu rulers of China conquered Inner Mongolia in 1636 and Outer Mongolia in 1691, except for western Mongolia, which finally fell in 1755. The 200 or so years during which Mongolia was under Manchu rule was a dark time in the country?s history. Sukhbaatar is connected with modern Mongolian history by 1921?s People?s Revolution, started by him.

Until 1921, the external requirements promoting the victory of the 1921 People?s Revolution were directly associated with the policies pursued on the parts of Tsarist Russian and China following the installation of the Bogd Khan Monarchy in Mongolia. Both its neighbors were carrying out policies aimed at infringing the independence of Mongolia and placing the country under their rule.

The political situation in Mongolia was further exacerbated by incursions into Mongolian territory by the Tsarist Russian units defeated by and driven out of Siberia by the Russian (Communist) Red Army.

Thus, in the 1920s, Mongolia became a battlefield of struggle and contradictions between Chinese and Russian military forces. Because of these factors, the patriotic, spirited officer Sukhbaatar created a new political force in which priests and military forces formed secret revolutionary circles, which later were the basis for the political organization, the People?s Party, whose purpose was to restore state independence, preserve the state and religion, and liberate the land and the people of Mongolia.

Sukhbaatar headed delegations of the People?s Party to Kremlin to ask for military and loan aids, and to establish relations with the new Bolshevik Russian Government. The constituent congress of the newly formed Mongolian People?s Party met at the beginning of March 1921 in Kyakhta in Siberia, near the northern border of Mongolia, discussed and adopted a program for national independence.

After Sukhbaatar?s army had won a stunning victory over superior Chinese forces in Kyakhta, Red Army units began driving the Tsarist Russian troops out of Niislel Khuree (Ulaanbaatar) and on June 6, 1921, they captured the city.

Thus, in the 20th century Mongolia obtained the new name of People?s Republic of Mongolia and commenced a new stage of its development.

During the ceremony, a photo exhibition on Sukhbaatar opened in the cultural center named after the general on February 2-8. An exhibition titled, ?Space,? displayed almost 150 historical photos about Sukhbaatar?s life, his struggle for the Mongolian people and his family?s photos.

http://ubpost.mongolnews.mn/main/index.php...1&Itemid=43

Mongolian Army in Iraq, Kosovo, and Sierra Leone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6HFiNmzVV8

Here's an interesting new variety (W NIB 14), a "Lion" wrestling badge for aimag (provincial) naadam competitions. This seems to be ageneric aimag badge.

From reference, extracted from the web site http://rulers.org/

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Mongolia

1 Dec 1911 Mongolia (Bogd Khaan State)

19 Feb 1920 reannexation to China

3 Feb 1921 Mongolia (Bogd Khaan State)

28 Nov 1924 Mongolian People's Republic

12 Feb 1992 Mongolia

Bogd Khaan (reincarnated lama ruler)

1 Dec 1911 - 19 Feb 1920 Jabzandamba Hutagt Bogd Gegeen

Ezen Haan (1st time) (b. 1869 - d. 1924)

3 Feb 1921 - 20 May 1924 Jabzandamba Hutagt Bogd Gegeen

Ezen Haan (2nd time) (s.a.)

Acting head of state

20 May 1924 - 28 Nov 1924 Balingiyn Tserendorj Beyse (b. 1868 - d. 1928)

Chairmen of the Central Committee of the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party

3 Mar 1921 - Sep 1921 Soliyn Danzan (b. 1884 - d. 1924)

Sep 1921 - 7 Jan 1922 Dogsomyn Bodoo (b. 1895 - d. 1922)

15 Mar 1922 - 2 Jan 1923 Tseren-Ochiryn Dambadorj

(1st time) (b. 1899 - d. 1934)

2 Jan 1923 - 31 Aug 1924 Ajvaagiyn Danzan (b. 1895 - d. 1932)

31 Aug 1924 - Oct 1928 Tseren-Ochiryn Dambadorj

(2nd time) (s.a.)

Chairman of the State Great Hural

28 Nov 1924 - 29 Nov 1924 Navaandorjiyn Jadambaa

Chairmen of the Presidium of the State Little Hural

29 Nov 1924 - 15 Nov 1927 Peljidiyn Genden (s.a.)

16 Nov 1927 - 23 Jan 1929 Jamtsangiyn Damdins?ren (b. 1898 - d. 1938)

24 Jan 1929 - 27 Apr 1930 Horloogiyn Choybalsan (b. 1895 - d. 1952)

27 Apr 1930 - 2 Jul 1932 Losolyn Laagan (b. 1887 - d. 1940)

2 Jul 1932 - 22 Mar 1936 Agdanbuugiyn Amar (b. 1886 - d. 1941)

22 Mar 1936 - 9 Jul 1939 Dansrabilegiyn Dogsom (b. 1884 - d. 1941)

9 Jul 1939 - 6 Jul 1940 vacant

6 Jul 1940 - 6 Jul 1951 Gonchigiyn Bumtsend (b. 1881 - d. 1953)

Chairmen of the Presidium of the State Great Hural (from 7 Jul 1960, People's Great Hural)

6 Jul 1951 - 23 Sep 1953 Gonchigiyn Bumtsend (s.a.)

23 Sep 1953 - 7 Jul 1954 S?hbaataryn Yanjmaa (f) (acting) (b. 1893 - d. 1962)

7 Jul 1954 - 20 May 1972 Jamtsarangiyn Sambuu (b. 1895 - d. 1972)

20 May 1972 - 29 Jun 1972 Tsagaanlamyn D?gers?ren (acting)

29 Jun 1972 - 11 Jun 1974 Sonomyn Luvsan (acting) (b. 1924)

11 Jun 1974 - 23 Aug 1984 Yumjaagiyn Tsedenbal (s.a.)

23 Aug 1984 - 12 Dec 1984 Nyamyn Jagvaral (acting) (b. 1919)

12 Dec 1984 - 21 Mar 1990 Jambyn Batm?nh (s.a.)

21 Mar 1990 - 3 Sep 1990 Punsalmaagiyn Ochirbat (b. 1942)

Secretaries of the Central Committee of the MPRP (jointly)

11 Dec 1928 - 30 Jun 1932 ?lziytiyn Badrah (b. 1895 - d. 1941)

11 Dec 1928 - 13 Mar 1930 Bat-Ochiryn Eldev-Ochir (1st time) (b. 1905 - d. 1937)

11 Dec 1928 - 30 Jun 1932 Peljidiyn Genden (b. 1892 - d. 1937)

13 Mar 1930 - 30 Jun 1932 Zolbingiyn Shijee (b. 1901 - d. 1941)

30 Jun 1932 - 1937 Bat-Ochiryn Eldev-Ochir (2nd time) (s.a.)

30 Jun 1932 - 1933 Jambyn Lh?mbe (b. 1902 - d. 1934)

30 Jun 1932 - 1937 Dorgijavyn Luvsansharav (b. 1900 - d. 1941)

5 Oct 1934 - 15 Aug 1936 Has-Ochiryn Luvsandorj (b. 1910 - d. 1937)

7 Oct 1936 - 22 Feb 1940 Banzarjavyn Baasanjav (b. 1906 - d. 1940)

4 Jul 1939 - 8 Apr 1940 Dashiyn Damba (b. 1908 - d. 1993?)

General secretaries of the Central Committee of the MPRP

8 Apr 1940 - 4 Apr 1954 Yumjaagiyn Tsedenbal (1st time) (b. 1916 - d. 1991)

4 Apr 1954 - 22 Nov 1958 Dashiyn Damba (s.a.)

(first secretary)

22 Nov 1958 - 24 Aug 1984 Yumjaagiyn Tsedenbal (2nd time) (s.a.)

(first secretary to 30 May 1981)

24 Aug 1984 - 14 Mar 1990 Jambyn Batm?nh (b. 1926 - d. 1997)

14 Mar 1990 - 13 Apr 1990 Gombojavyn Ochirbat (b. 1929)

Presidents

3 Sep 1990 - 20 Jun 1997 Punsalmaagiyn Ochirbat (s.a.)

20 Jun 1997 - 24 Jun 2005 Natsagiyn Bagabandi (b. 1950)

24 Jun 2005 - Nambaryn Enkhbayar (b. 1958)

Prime ministers

Dec 1911 - 1919 Sain Noyon Khan Namnansuren (b. 1878 - d. 1919)

1919 - 1920 Khatan Baatar Maksarjav (b. 18... - d. 1920)

13 Mar 1921 - 16 Apr 1921 Dambyn Chadarjav (b. 1880 - d. 1922)

16 Apr 1921 - 7 Jan 1922 Dogsomyn Bodoo (s.a.)

3 Mar 1922 - 23 Jun 1923 Sodnomyn Damdinbazar (b. 1874 - d. 1923)

28 Sep 1923 - 28 Nov 1924 Balingiyn Tserendorj Beyse (s.a.)

Chairmen of the Council of People's Commissars (from 1946, chairmen of the Council of Ministers)

28 Nov 1924 - 13 Feb 1928 Balingiyn Tserendorj Beyse (s.a.)

21 Feb 1928 - 27 Apr 1930 Agdanbuugiyn Amar (1st time) (s.a.)

27 Apr 1930 - 2 Jul 1932 Tsengeltiyn Jigjidav (acting) (b. 1894 - d. 1933)

2 Jul 1932 - 22 Mar 1936 Peljidiyn Genden (s.a.)

22 Mar 1936 - 7 Mar 1939 Agdanbuugiyn Amar (2nd time) (s.a.)

24 Mar 1939 - 26 Jan 1952 Horloogiyn Choybalsan (s.a.)

28 May 1952 - 11 Jun 1974 Yumjaagiyn Tsedenbal (s.a.)

11 Jun 1974 - 12 Dec 1984 Jambyn Batm?nh (s.a.)

12 Dec 1984 - 21 Mar 1990 Dumaagiyn Sodnom (b. 1933)

21 Mar 1990 - 11 Sep 1990 Sharavyn Gungaadorj (b. 1935)

Prime ministers

11 Sep 1990 - 21 Jul 1992 Dashiyn Byambas?ren (b. 1942)

21 Jul 1992 - 19 Jul 1996 Puntsagiyn Jasray (b. 1933)

19 Jul 1996 - 23 Apr 1998 Mendsaikhany Enkhsaikhan (b. 1955)

23 Apr 1998 - 9 Dec 1998 Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj (1st time) (b. 1963)

9 Dec 1998 - 22 Jul 1999 Janlavyn Narantsatsralt (b. 1957)

22 Jul 1999 - 30 Jul 1999 Nyam-Osoryn Tuyaa (f) (acting) (b. 1958)

30 Jul 1999 - 26 Jul 2000 Rinchinnyamyn Amarjargal (b. 1961)

26 Jul 2000 - 13 Aug 2004 Nambaryn Enkhbayar (s.a.)

13 Aug 2004 - 20 Aug 2004 Chultem Ulaan (acting) (b. 1954)

20 Aug 2004 - 25 Jan 2006 Tsakhiagiyn Elbegdorj (2nd time) (s.a.)

25 Jan 2006 - Miyeegombo Enkhbold (b. 1964)

Lkhagvasuren remembered

The Mongol Messenger, 14 March 2007, p. 8