Ed_Haynes

Thought you would know, Lukasz!

Please help. See: http://www.omsa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1490

Good start, Jani (and good to see you here). A very nice and tempting set of goodies. Keep up the good work!

Thanks, Owain,

Good to see you here. Ahalan wa sahalan.

Ed

Oh, so that "Imperial Jubilee Coronation Medal" is an Ethiopian award, even if worn nestled among British awards. If the order of the illustrated bar represents how he wore his ribbons, he surely made a hash out of them. I guess, when you are Jah, you can wear them any way you wish?

1- British Orders never used French-style rosette/wing add-ons. Is there evidence that the Emperor added them fraudulently?

2- There is no such thing as a British "Imperial Jubilee Coronation Medal" and the solid purple ribbon is an utter fantasy. This could have been either the George V Jubilee Medal or the George VI Coronation Medal. He was a client of the British in the era of both. However, honorary awards to foreigners rarely made it onto the rolls.

Yes, some really interesting things are hidden in there. The fellow running the auction is one of the good guys, and freely admits he isn't an expert on everything (although he KNOWS the ODM of Finland well).

Ask me in a couple of weeks when I get back from Ulan Baatar . . . .

And cross fingers . . . .

Ed,

It's great to have those three next to each other...great comparo! Would you have a Karl Marx order as well? Kind of different I guess, but in similar vein...

Wish I had a Karl Marx Order ... on the list ....

I imagine they had a bit of a problem engraving their names on the rim

Their titles tended to be left off by the medal-namers in Calcutta.

Wow. And WOW. Wow^2.

Nice as my Mongolian police friends from last summer:

Or an unscruplous seller trying to raise the price of the medal by the addition of a "RARE" Bar!!

Kevin in Deva.

Oh, Kevin . . . you mean . . . that sort of thing might happen . . . on eBay . . . of all places?!

Must be quite a tale as to how it got there. If these chunks of metal could speak??

Let me know if you need ORIGINAL ribbon. (Old-line military tailors in South Asia are nice!)

That is so early -- in an era that attracts little phaleristic interest -- I'd not be sure where to start. Don't hold you breath for a response from the Chancery though; they have a small staff and are not equipped to do research for people (or even to be open for researchers). The National Archives (PRO) would likely have the sources, but you'd need to do your own work.

The order was awarded to foreigners both in single-class and in multi-class (GCB, KCB, CB) varieties.

Let me get the lists for Colonel H.H. Farzand-i-Dilband Rasikh-al-Iqtidad-i-Daulat-i-Inglishia, Raja-i-Rajagan, Maharaja Sir Jagajit Singh Bahadur, Maharaja of Kapurthala, and for Lieutenant-General H.H. Farzand-i-Khas-i-Daulat-i-Inglishia, Mansur-i-Zaman, Amir ul-Umara, Maharajadhiraja Raj Rajeshwar Yadu Vansha Vatans Bhatti Kul Bushan 108 Sri Maharaja-i-Rajgan, Maharaja Sir Bhupinder Singh Mahendra Bahadur, Maharaja of Patiala. I suspect they can top these! Here is Bhupinder Singh in his phaleristic prime:

As with so many other issues on these numerous wars, things phaleristic weren't well thought out and have turtned into a bit of a mess. Andy given a good survey of the existing reality and likely trajectory (battle stars, for example). Another part of the issue is the ongoing fact of multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan (etc.?), and some solution will need to be found.

On other issues: NATO medals without clasps (the US seems to see them as somehow immoral?) and only on the one-size-fits-all ribbon (the same as the strange US policy on UN medals). I believe the Kosovo medals were both awarded; the US does not share the UK policy (though it is often violated) on multiple medals for the same service (just look at how many US medals one can rack up from just one deployment in the current wars!).

I never thought anything could outshine a Lenin, but the Sukhbaatar surely does. The Dimitrov, by comparison, doesn't compare (at least not positively!).

I may be doing an exhibit on the Sukhbaatar Order at this year's OMSA, though the best comparison to the Sukhbaatar, to show the inspiration and origin would be a Lenin screwback type 4, but I don't have one.

Thanks for "bumping" this one, JC. I was just thinking I needed to try to give it and this sub-forum some new life.

OK, so now absolutely EVERYTHING is being faked!!

As Mel Brooks (almost) said in his film" It's good to be the Pharaoh!"

I know it was yesterday. I am just a little slow in getting caught up with real life!

Nice ones, Doc. Let me see what research I can scare up.

Hey, always room for one more addiction, eh??

Celebrate!!

Happy Red Army Day!

. . . yes . . . ???