Ed_Haynes

can we get a full scan of the back? ribbon included?

Absolutely, Chris (now that I've fetched it from "storage"). Enjoy. (Not much exciting here, though.)

I, too, believe it to be third class, but information on awards from Burma/Myanmar is extremely sparse.

A nice find.

Yes, I do.

Oh?

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13704

But, since you are a friend:

OP Vijay Star -- Announced by the Prime Minister 26 July 2001 and established by Notification No.116-Pres./01 of 20 August 2001. The ribbon was modified by Notification No.98-Pres./03 of 18 June 2003.

OP Vijay Medal -- Announced by the Prime Minister 26 July 2001 and authorized by notification No. 115-Pres./01 of 20 August 2001.

Coast Guard 20 and 9 year Service Medals - Established by No. 132-Pres/2004 of 17 November 2004.

Thanks, Paul,

That it what I thought/feared . . . .

But I do have a China Incident Medal without a home . . . until now.

Ed

As I said, the specimen I just got came cased. But, as I do some reading, I now have some doubts that the case matches. And, here, I am linguisitically clueless. Help!!

The case is a dark maroopn-brown, though it doesn't look thus in the scan.

I have never seen one officially named, which is too bad. This one is one of the nicest unofficial naming jobs I have ever seen.

What intrests me is what would be the re sale price for the piece with research

Order of Victory

So many dealers and accumulators/investors don't care for the research and just throw it out, being more interested in the "thing" and, perhaps, in the "type". Sad.

While there may be fake MBEs out there, I have never seen or heard of one. It is fairly common and not at all high priced (maybe ?80 for an MBE). Likewise, the sort of fixation with maker's marks or hallmarks that collectors of German awards evidence seems strange to the collector of British awards. I have never seen (or, to honest, even looked for) hallmarks on the second variety MBE (any more than there are hallmarks on silver decorations and medals), though they are seen on the first type badge. If you are buying from a reliable and knowledgable dealer there is probably no problem. I'm sorry to say that, from the sound of it, you may not be dealing with such a dealer. If you want some names of reliable dealers, send me a PM.

M NIB 07 -- Mongol Export

While I am not sure what the link to the Stark is, I would agree that he is surely one of the major figures of the 20th Century. Let us not, please, stray into "bloody shirt" territory . . . .

N NIB 02 -- Construction Factory

N NIB 01 -- Outstanding Worker of the Architectural Design Service

Does the Indian Forces post members of one element (Navy, Army etc) to units of another element, like the Canadian Forces do?

Yes, and most OP Vijay Star recipients were posted to navy folks stationed in Delhi (it was the navy that pressed -- guess why -- to have a "pocket" of combat elegibility extended to folks sitting in Naval HQ -- INS Delhi -- in New Delhi). Now, both the OP Vijay Star (for combat service) and the OP Vijay Medal (for "being there" have the same three stripes for the three services, though wider on the star. Sure to generate confusion, as it has already generated politics.

It is all a reflection of the fact that there is no high-level knowledgable supervision of the honours system these days.

Not sure I find it "sad" that these are going home to Russia. I just wish I were more certain that such lovelies were going to research-loving collectors rather than to "New Rich" accumulators and shameless investors.

In any case, no matter where Igor sets his prices, things do seem to sell . . . eventually. An interesting exercise in ECON 102.

Thanks, Laurence. Those were almost exactly the sorts of images I was going to post. Now I don't have to. Hope they answer the question?

Interest unofficial naming on your MBE, by the way!

Yes, the ribbon for the OP Vijay Star has been redesigned, to add a dark blue stripe (representing the navy and presumably acknowledging all those ships sailing in the high Himalayas?).

See:

Just as a cross-reference (and to minimize redundant and duplicate cross-posting) a number of documented construction badges are shown as a part of the group to Colonel (at least) Byamba Gezegt, http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14479.

O NIB 03 -- Socialist Laborer of the Wood Processing Plant, Ulaanbaatar Rail Road

U NIB -- 5th Pioneer Conference

W NIB 12 -- Gymnastic Competition Badge

D NIB 01 -- 50th Anniversary of the People's Justice Court of the MPR, 1926-76

R NIB 16 -- Best Pupil

P NIB 11 -- Transport Driver

P NIB 10 -- Leading Driver Without Accident No. 3

A variant of P 03.

After some very recent updates to the database - I can now vouch for the fact that the Bharat Rakshak database is like 95% accurate and above - and the VMs especially are complete upto 97-98%. (It was rather incomplete when the previous posts were made.

We are also helped by the fact that there is a profile of Air Marshal Master at this link http://armedforces.nic.in/airforce/tc/aocinc.htm which clearly mentions he was awarded only the AVSM and PVSM - thus the ribbon bar must belong to someone else - there are over 1030+ possibilities to chose from! But I am sure some sort of 'filteration' can be made.

Thanks Jaganji, and good to see you over here (too)