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    Ed_Haynes

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    1. Agreed. While the interests of museums (and societies) change (and those who collect coins really don't tolerate us much more than as deviant bastard cousins), I do feel sad that those who busted their butts (and wallets) to get this collection for the ANS now find their goodies being sold away. OK, the society will come out well and the awards will go to other (loving) homes, but somehow, something just seems, well, wrong, here.

      To be honest, part of it is that a good friend -- recently deceased -- gave a LOT of things to them (some in this sale, most in the next) in good faith. While I am temnpted by some of the Bukhara stuff, I'll just await the next sale to add some "ex-Spengler Collection, ex-ANS collection" items.

      Not sure about the "X". That seems a 19th-century collection-marking practice. Saw some of that the summer I worked at the Smithsonian.

      The whole show seems to me to be a very "numismatic" cataloging job. Done up by folks who know a lot about coins, but not much about medals. Still, some lovely items, and collected pre-WWII for the most part, so fewer provenance issues than usual.

      But . . . oh . . . the "condition issues" . . . :o

    2. Don't know what ANS / M&E mean... link perhaps?

      Thanx

      Oh . . . sorry.

      ANS = American Numismatic Society -- they are selling their ENTIRE non-US medal collection (mainly gifted by society members from the late 19th century through the 1960s) - so sad

      M&E = Morton and Eden, the UK auction house, they (to the sure frustration of some US-based phaleristic auction houses?) are selling (in conjunction wioth Sotheby's) teh ANS collection in (I think) three parts - part 2 (25-26 October) is online at http://www.mortonandeden.com/ -- go to "Next Sale" shere you can get the catalogue as a PDF (2 MB), or http://www.mortonandeden.com/ - the color plates are separate at http://www.mortonandeden.com/ans2plates.htm (drool).

      The Tammys are lots 372-375. Two are illustrated http://www.mortonandeden.com/ans2plates/Plate2-36.jpg see it and drool. (BIGGGG.)

    3. There are those (Jeff?) more expert than I who I hope will respond. Other than a few family and "fringe" items, I don't "do" US medals.

      However: What is often forgotten is the large number of individual makers who produced US awards, rather more like French of German medals rather than like British awards. The variability of quality (from the beautiful to the laughable) and design over time and between various makers is bewildering and frustrating. It leads, as well, to the ready availability of items, especially of the lowest quality, at places like eBay or SOS.

      If, a spending legislation intends, all trade in US awards is stopped, things will change.

      Nevertheless, at its best, the LoM is lovely. As one of the award's functions was to be awarded to foreigners (who knew what attractive awards looked like), I guess it had to be.

    4. Actually, miniatures and miniature groups are faked fairly commonly. Being unnamed, they are easy to fake, just like ribbon groups. The faking is made all the easier by jewelers and manufacturers who churn out miniatures of long-obsolete awards and awards that were never worn in miniature for the "collector market". Am I paranoid, Matt, hardly, just rational and observant of what is on offer.

      I was digging for images of the award, but as the interest here is more that of "reenactment" than of phaleristics, I guess there's no need to bother. If I find anything, I'll start a new thread over in "international", rather than here as if the award were "British".

      The order and its British recipients has been pretty well researched in the OMRS journal, and people may want to dig out their back issues of this for more information. The only problem with what has been published there is a lack of distinct treatment of the order as, first, a Hejazi and, later, Transjordanian/Jordanian award and, as usual, a narrow tendancy to see it as existing only in so far as it was awarded to Brits.

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