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      Hierarchy of Soviet Awards?

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

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      While there was, of course, an official precedence, buy there was also the way (or, more accurately, WAYS) in which the awards were actually given out -- who was elegible for what for which acts. The "official" is easy, and I hope no one ignores it. Reality is, as always, more complex, and given the nature of our sources and the aggressive strength of some of our opinions, much more difficult (and therefore fun) to discover after all these decades. By determining how things were actually done and understood -- sometimes "by the book", often not, I suspect -- we can go beyond just quoting regulations and understand how the GPW-era system of awards really worked and a little of what these chunks of metal and enamel actually meant to the folks who won them. This is as important, I think, as getting research done on individual numismatic items. Although the individual award research is seen by some as adding value, and what we are trying to here adds knowledge, which has no market value, alas.

      And feel better, buddy. I know how it can be. :beer:

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      Regarding generals and the Nevsky-

      I may be dense, but I get the feeling we are mixing two things up here: (A) general-grade officers who got their Nevsky as generals and (B) general-grade officers who are seen wearing a Nevsky. "A" is very interesting and calls for study and research. "B" just means they got it at a lower rank -- like my guest Kravchenko http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=6207 -- and continued, of course, to wear it after promotion.

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      Fakes!

      in People's Republic Mongolia

      Posted

      Thanks, Tang Si, for your comments. Apparently so much of this tale has been played out by private messages and in other places, that it is sometimes difficult to follow the story.

      As I said above, I haven't seen enough evidence here (the main discussion forum for Mongolian awards in the world ;) ) to make a firm decision in the "fave" vs. "new type" issue. This is especially the case when so much of the discussion seems to be taking place off-forum.

      My mind remains open and interested.

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      Post-1947 Indian Groups

      in South Asia

      Posted · Edited by Ed_Haynes

      Another single:

      4330615 Naik Lal Buanga Lushai, SM, 2nd Battalion, Assam Regiment

      Sena Medal by Not. No. 84-Pres./74, 17 June 1971, Gazette of India, pt. 1 sect. 1, 29 June 1974, p. 687, #81:

      "During the operations in 1971, Naik Lal Buanga Lubhai as a Section Commander in a company which occupied a position in the Western Sector, successfully engaged the enemy and killed seven other ranks. He was responsible for bringing one enemy dead body, one Light Machine Gun with six magazines, one rifle and two hand grenades.

      "In this action Naik Lal Buanga Lubhai displayed courage and leadership."

      Medal named: 4336015 NK. LALBHANGA LUSHAI, ASSAM

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      Pre-1947 Indian Non-Gallantry Groups

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

      Posted

      Private John Maxham, H. M. 40th Regiment

      Really a FRINGE item for me, but it was too nice to pass up.

      1- Candahar, Ghuznee, Cabul - Private John Maxham H. M. 40th Regt.

      2- Maharajpoor Star - Private John Maxham H. M. 40th Regt.

      A token European pair for my collection! Normally I do not bother with awards to natives (or the British Isles).

      "Paperwork" in hand. Full Diana Birch research job from the 1970s. :)

      In summary:

      Born Hansted, Suffolk, about 1807. A labourer, he enlisted in the 40th Regiment of Foot at Cochester on 21 November 1825, aged 18 years. He served nineteen years and 74 days, 16 8/12 years overseas:

      New South Wales and Van Diemen?s Land ? 1 year 11 months

      East Indies ? 10 years 10 months

      Scinde, Baluchistan, Afghanistan ? 3 years 11 months

      Shown as qualified for both medals. No courts martial and conduct shown as ?good?. Discharged 1 February 1845 on account of health, he signed with an ?X?.

      Now, someone find me a similar pair named to an Indian and we'll talk a trade . . . .

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      Pre-1947 Indian Non-Gallantry Groups

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

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      Sowar Hirah Singh, 13th Bengal Lancers

      1- Egypt Medal, 1882-89, dated 1882 - TEL-EL-KEBIR - Sowar Hirah Singh, 13th Bengal Lancers

      2- Egypt: Khedive's Campaign Star, 1882 - unnamed

      Egypt 1882, 11 July-23 September 1882; Tel-el-Kebir 13 September 1882.

      Served in the Indian Division (Maj-Gen Sir H. Macherson, VC, KCB) in the Cavalry Brigade (Brigadier H. C. Wilkinson) under Brevet Lt.-Col. W. H. Macnaghten.

      Embarked 6-15 August 1882 and arrived in Egypt 21August-10 September 1882.

      The 13th arrived early, before the 25th of August, concentrated at Ismailia by the 27th and advanced against opposition to Kassassin by the 30th. Before the battle, the 13th charged a vastly superior force of Egyptian horse and screened British forces. On the 13th scouted Egyptian positions at Tel-el-Kebir 7-12 September, when reports of this concentration were received.

      Battle at Tel-el-Kebir 13 September 1882 Indian cavalry sent to attack the western Egyptian column before the battle. In the battle, on the right wing, with Indian cavalry to the south of British units. The 13th attacked railway station at Zagazig and Belbeis and took the lead in advancing on Cairo after the battle.

      14 September 1882, Cairo captured. The regiment was stationed in Cairo on the 26th and participated in the ceremonies reinstalling the Khedive. At that time, the Duke of Connaught announced his intent to become Colonel-in-Chief.

      Left Egypt 5-27 October 1882 - KIA: 1 NCO, 1 man; died of disease: 1 man; wounded: 5 men; 28 horses lost on the outward voyage.

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      Pre-1947 Indian Non-Gallantry Groups

      in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals

      Posted

      164 Sepoy Fazl Din, 33rd Punjab Infantry

      1- Second Afghan War, 1878-80 - Sepoy Fazl Din 21st Regt N. I.

      2- India General Service Medal, 1854-95 - WAZIRISTAN 1894-95 - 164 Sepoy Fazl Din 33d Bl Infy

      3- India Medal, 1895-1902, Victoria - PUNJAB FRONTIER 1897-98 - 164 Sepoy Fazl Din 33d Pjb Infy

      4- Indian Army Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, Victoria 1888 issue - 164 Sepoy Fazl Din 33d Bl Infy

      As a regiment, the 21st Bengal Infantry received no medals or clasps between 1869 and 1891, other than no clasp Afghanistan 1878 awards for service in the Kurram Field Force. From his name it is evident that Fazl Din was a Punjabi Musalman, and he would have transferred to the 33rd [Punjabi 'Mahomedan'] Regiment of Bengal Infantry in 1891. In accordance with orders received in January 1891, the 33rd Bengal Infantry was disbanded and then immediately re-raised with a substantially modified class structure- hence the transfer of Punjab Muslims from the 21st Bengal Infantry, including Fazl Din. The 33rd Bengal Infantry went on to serve with the Waziristan Field Force from November 1894 to March 1895 and then with the Tochi Field Force between June 1897 and March 1898, earning the 1854 and 1895 India General Service medals with appropriate clasps. It was not present in any other field operations until the Great War.

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      The "new" Order of the Sacred Treasure.

      in Japan

      Posted

      It sounds equally horrible in Japanese. The entire reform of the Japanese award system was a half baked measure done by gnomes with no imagination whatsoever.

      So sad, Paul. I feared as much. I tremble for Mongolia. The damage in India has been progressive and not as abrupt.

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      Hungarian People's Republic Awards

      in Central & Eastern European States

      Posted

      by the way Ed:

      Did you know the hungarians also had a Spanish Civil War commemorative medal? Only @ 174 awarded.

      Yes, and I am in quest of one . . . pant, pant.

      Here is the 1959 , 40th Anniversary of the Revolution Commemorative medal-28,001 awarded, possibly to 1919 Communist revolutionarys who fought the Freikorps and Horthyites as well as Communist Apparatcheks.

      And that one too (new for me). Lovely item, lovely history!

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